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We Watch TV is a podcast where we (Hope and Daniel) watch TV and then talk about it. We bring our own brand of weird humor and obscure references to the various shows and topics we discuss. This ranty and tangent filled podcast is just for you if you like commentary on current streaming TV and rewatches of old shows with spoilers and laughs.
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We Watch TV Episode 121 – Happy Halloween
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In this episode of We Watch TV, Hope and Daniel chat about their Halloween favorites and excitement for the upcoming holiday season. Thanks to our amazing listeners, and one who went above and beyond, Daniel also issues an APOLOGY (sort of) over his comments regarding his thoughts on Hallmark Christmas movies that were proven INCORRECT! The hosts also react to the Wicked theme night on Dancing with the Stars before delving into the latest Only Murders in the Building episode. The hosts wrap things up by discussing their thoughts on season 2 of Netflix’s Nobody Wants This.
(00:00:00) Intro and Fan Mail
(00:15:54) Dancing with the Stars
(00:30:33) Halloween Favorites
(00:34:13) Only Murders in the Building (season 5)
(00:37:01) Nobody Wants This (season 2)
Music by yourtunes from Pixabay
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Hey everybody, and welcome to We Watch TV. It is the podcast about the TV that we watch. I am Daniel. She is Hope. This is episode 121. It's almost Halloween. Which means in Hope World, it's almost Christmas.
SPEAKER_00:It is happy Halloween, merry almost holiday season. Which again, the holiday season is your Thanksgiving, your Christmas, your New Year's Eve, Hanukkah. If you so desire, um, what is it? Star Wars Life Day.
SPEAKER_01:So at least No, no, no, no, no.
SPEAKER_00:But yeah, none of this. No one skips Thanksgiving. We just like to have our Thanksgiving with the side of wonderful holiday decor because life is kind of crappy. And do what makes you happy. There's a rhyme. And we actually are getting ready to decorate for the holidays very soon. I never do it before Halloween. It's like the clock strikes midnight. Mariah's fully defrosted. Do you want to tell everybody why? Christmas can go. No. I don't want to be well, one, it's a curse. Like, watch the movie Trick or Tree. That tells you all you need to know. You gotta leave your Christmas decor excuse me, you gotta leave your Halloween decorations up till now, till then, people. You cannot take them down until Halloween is over.
SPEAKER_02:I fear that many of you listeners may just be laughing at this, but she's serious.
SPEAKER_00:Well, it's also like I, you know, I kind of do it like Disney does. Like I the the October 31st is still Halloween. The Halloween season decorations will remain up until then. Then we can start rolling out Christmas. And while we're enjoying Christmas on Thanksgiving, we enjoy Thanksgiving, and then it's back to Christmas. Honestly, like to me, Christmas Day is the biggest is this is like the bummer. Like that's the depressing day. Christmas Eve is fun, but like Christmas Day is like the sad day. The best thing about Christmas is the build-up, and having Thanksgiving is almost like that pre-Christmas thing, it's just really awesome. Like, as you're as I'm an adult now, I think I like Thanksgiving Day better than Christmas Day because you're just in the thick of the holiday season. What what about you?
SPEAKER_02:Um I like Halloween. I like Halloween better.
SPEAKER_00:And I didn't ask for Halloween.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I like Thanksgiving better than than Christmas.
SPEAKER_00:So I always think it's interesting before we get into what we did this weekend, that Halloween for you, you always claim that Halloween is one of your favorite holidays. Yeah, this is the man that you only watch Hocus Pocus when like I am doing our you know annual rewa rewatch, and you'll probably watch Great Pumpy with me, but you don't like scary movies, you don't really like the fun Halloween movies, dressing up for Halloween isn't your favorite. You like candy, but that's a year-round thing for you. What is it that you like about Halloween? Because you're not really liking a lot of the stuff that goes with it. I know you like our skeleton, our decor. So, you know, if you like the skeleton so much, and since you claim that Halloween is your favorite of the holidays, you should let me buy that twelve foot tall skeleton next year.
SPEAKER_02:But Halloween is one of the fall, one of the big three for the fall. So you get the kind of the weather that you want. Which we're this is like, I would say this week, at least here in our neck of the woods, is like perfect Halloween weather. Perfect Halloween fall holiday weather. So you get that weather, and I'm just like an old van. Even though I don't necessarily like dressing up, I I enjoy seeing other people's costumes and what kind of creative things they come up with. And the biggest reason is because it's the one it's the fall holiday that comes with absolutely the least amount of familiar pressure on me to go do stuff. So it's because uh nobody says, hey Daniel, you gotta come over for the Hall of the family Halloween gathering this year, and you gotta make sure you bring this, and you gotta make sure you do this, so we want to see ya. There's none of that. Nobody gets upset. None of that. Nobody gets upset. It's just I can enjoy it and watch from from afar as people have fun. Even though you get the Halloween movies. Yeah, then we get the Thanksgiving and Christmas, and everybody gets all uptight. Uptight about it, and they are all like, I want to win if I get to see ya. Not to mention, we all know what else happens around Thanksgiving. My birthday. Which makes it even worse because everybody, you know, I really want to see you on your birthday. Well, what but but what but do I want to see you on my birthday? Because it's my birthday. I should be able to do what I want.
SPEAKER_00:At least it's not on Thanksgiving this year.
SPEAKER_02:Black Friday, it might be worse.
SPEAKER_00:You never go shopping on Black Friday. Black Friday I miss, I actually miss when Black Friday shopping was like an event. And I'm not talking about the Thanksgiving evening Black Friday. I'm talking about like old school Black Friday, where you get up like at four in the morning and you go to the mall, like the way it was in like the 90s, early 2000s. That I miss it when it was an event. It's just it's not the same. It's not the same. And now that my nephews are old enough, I would have loved to have imparted like my Black Friday wisdom on them. Like we used to go all the time, but like half the time we wouldn't even buy anything. We would just like watch people be crazy. I feel like I remember my last traditional time, like going on a Black Friday in the morning. So I was with one of my friends. I was already in college at this point. I feel like this was like before it started to kind of creep into Thanksgiving, and now it's just kind of online, so you really have Black Friday sales like the whole week. But I remember like we were wrapping up what we were doing, and we were in the food court at the mall, and I was like, Oh my gosh, I'm so hungry for lunch. Let's go get a salad. And then we go over to Chick-fil-A, and they're like, We're still serving breakfast because it was like 9 a.m. But we had been at the mall since like 4 30 in the morning, so we felt like it was like lunchtime, and I'm like, you know, that that made Black Friday special, but for you, you're not gonna be doing anything. Okay, so if you don't want to do anything on Black Friday, can I take uh my nephew to see Zootopia too? One of our nephews. See, I was thinking about telling him no. You're gonna get in the car because it was your birthday.
SPEAKER_02:You're gonna get in the car and you're gonna drive away and you're just gonna leave me here with my devices. Absolutely.
SPEAKER_00:Okay.
SPEAKER_02:Hey, what do we do this weekend?
SPEAKER_00:Uh, we are prepping for the upcoming holiday season, and you are actually such a good sport. I was very impressed. We went to Home Depot, they have their whole little Christmas section. Once again, learned that our car is not big enough to put hardly anything in. So the tree that we wanted, we finally we've never bought a Christmas tree. I'm a Christmas super fan, but like we've always been given trees. So we've had like our tree that was given to us for well over a decade at this point.
SPEAKER_02:Um, I've like 17 years. As long as we've lived in this house, we've had that tree.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, so it's been a while, and every year we're like, we're gonna buy a new one, and then we never do. Um, it's the pre-lit like lights haven't worked, and they haven't worked in over a decade.
SPEAKER_02:Did they ever work?
SPEAKER_00:I think they worked like the first two years.
SPEAKER_02:I don't remember them even working at all, but yeah, you might be able to do that.
SPEAKER_00:Like, and then like one of the set went out, and then we had to light them up. But anyway, that that part wasn't as we didn't intend to buy a tree. It was an impulse purchase that was then made difficult. So we sat in our car and then ordered the same tree online to have shipped to the house.
SPEAKER_02:The shipping was free online. Yeah, but if we had gotten the tree that we purchased at the Home Depot shipped to the house from there, they were gonna charge me like 80 bucks.
SPEAKER_00:The only thing I think of is maybe they were gonna deliver it that day. I have no idea.
SPEAKER_02:By the way, I don't well, here's what I don't understand. All those plastic trees in there, the one that we ended up picking out was the biggest box.
SPEAKER_00:Of course.
SPEAKER_02:Listen, there was a tree sitting right next to it.
SPEAKER_00:Mrs. Crank likes the big ones.
SPEAKER_02:It was the same tree. It was the same tree, except instead of colored lights, it was just white.
SPEAKER_00:Yes, I like to have options.
SPEAKER_02:The box wasn't the same size. Because I looked at the boxes. Because I uh and and all the boxes, I was like, oh, that'll fit. That'll fit. No, no, no. This was when we were just shopping around. The the the 40 minutes it took you to decide.
SPEAKER_00:If I actually wanted to pull the trigger to buy a tree.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Okay. Um, I was looking at the boxes, like, oh, that'll all fit. That'll all fit. And I never got around to really gauging the one that we purchased. And it's just it's so frustrating.
SPEAKER_00:Well, me and the worker were given, we're sharing looks, and you Daniel's like insisting that it can go in. The poor like high school or 20-some-year-old, I don't know, they all look the same to me. Worker's looking at me like, and I'm like, yeah, Daniel, I don't think it's fitting. Like, he's looking at me like, help.
SPEAKER_02:But yeah, it took a- How do people take stuff home? Oh, wait, right. I know the answer. Everybody in this country owns a freaking tank for a vehicle, and so they don't have this problem. I don't want to drive a tank. I want to drive a nice, reasonable sedan that can't fit a Christmas tree on it.
SPEAKER_00:I'm gonna have to say goodbye to the old tree, though. Like, and say my goodbyes. Because I never got to say goodbyes to my when my parents replaced.
SPEAKER_02:Well, you better say it soon because as soon as we get that new tree and I verify it's the correct thing that we got, that old tree's going out by the garbage.
SPEAKER_00:We don't want it to be like a the middle situation where they put the wrong topper in there. You know how the middle you have like the pink topper on the side.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I'm gonna open it up and make sure everything's working right, and once I have confirmed that, um, that old tree's going out.
SPEAKER_00:Well, we have a new deck that Daniel helped build, helped my dad build and the crew. And that was what I was like, wow, we're gonna decorate the deck this year, and we have to replace the outside lights. So that's why we went to Home Depot, and then I ended up, let's see, we ended up getting a new tree, which you did push the decision to get a new tree, Bows, Garland, which was for the deck, new lights, and a penguin for the yard. So I'm gonna have my goose and her Christmas outfit. I'm gonna have my snowman and the penguin and all of this.
SPEAKER_02:The snowman and the penguin are inflatables, by the way, everybody. Just so you know, the qual the class of the mixing decoration that we're using.
SPEAKER_00:You know what? It's whimsical, it's fun. But you know what else is whimsical and fun when Daniel is wrong? And guess what? This is what the segment of the podcast where we call Drag Him. So if you listened to last week's episode, you heard Daniel rant about Hallmark Christmas movies because I did we watched a Hallmark Halloween movie. Haul out the Halloween, go check it out, it's not that bad. Um, but that was kind of our lead up into the Christmas movies because that's another thing. Not only do I not decorate till after Halloween, I make myself wait till November 1st to listen to Christmas music and then to watch the Christmas movies. And we always start off with the Hallmark ones before we move into the A-listers. And Daniel was like, none of them are good, they're all terrible. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I was like, I know you've said movies are good so far. Well, our podcast friend who has actually been on the podcast before, John Paul, he left us a fan mail, fan mail that says, first he says, I really enjoy the podcast, guys. Thanks. And then he says, as a reminder to your listeners to rate the show five stars and whatever app they use. We should probably be doing that more often. Thanks for the reminder.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, go rate us.
SPEAKER_00:Everybody rate us five stars, even though Daniel lies. And then it said, but Daniel stated in last week's episode that he never said he loved or liked a Hallmark movie. Is this true? Um, it is not true. And then later it looked like in the day that I'm gonna pull it up here on my Twitter. No, it's caught. I was waiting to do the same thing and he did the work for me.
SPEAKER_02:Actually, I did the work for both of you.
SPEAKER_00:I guess. Thanks to Daniel for putting together last year's Hallmark movie supercut, and we will have another Hallmark movie supercut featuring our conversations from the 2020 2024 movies coming sometime in early November. But he says it didn't take long to find two examples of him saying he liked a Hallmark movie. Can we expect a retraction or apology by Daniel in the next episode? So here we have this. I'm going to roll the tapes now. I really like how some of the Hallmark movies in the past couple years haven't going off the script. We had like the one last year with like a restaurant where sort of like love actually where romance wasn't at the center. That was good. Did you hear that? He said, I actually like that one. Then we have this. So I gotta get it pulled up.
SPEAKER_02:Holiday Hallmark movie that we watch. It's a um Hanukkah one.
SPEAKER_00:So yeah, this is a holiday movie.
SPEAKER_02:Round and round. Uh this was a good movie. Yes. I'm not gonna say too much. It was a good movie.
SPEAKER_00:Um This was a good movie, and I know you're gonna be like, but that one I already clarified wasn't a Christmas movie. It still counts as a Hallmark holiday movie because Hanukkah is part of the holiday season. So there you have it, folks. The footage, Daniel, apologize to our listeners for being a liar.
SPEAKER_02:Uh first of all, John Paul, uh, love you, buddy. But the fact that you listen to your podcast on two times is it makes me sound like a crazy freaking devious, and I don't know how you do it. And yes, I I can't imagine like listening to Hope at a higher speed than that. Um second, yeah, the one that I said was good is not a Christmas movie.
SPEAKER_00:I just clarified that before you said that, or you've already prepared your. I said, I know you're gonna say that. It's a Hallmark holiday movie, it still counts, and you said it was good, but then you said you liked the other one. So you and you've there's been more that you've said you've liked. Apologize right now, Danny.
SPEAKER_02:Did we check and make sure he didn't use AI to like change this and do that?
SPEAKER_00:I I'm I'm there for all the stuff. Apologize now.
SPEAKER_02:I apologize, and I will also never state verbally that I liked or in or felt any of these holiday movies were good ever again.
SPEAKER_00:You liked the one with the magical doorknobs and the Thanksgiving hotline. Yes, you did. Okay, Mr. Scream.
SPEAKER_02:Hey, did we get any other interaction on last week's podcast other than people calling me out for um my opinions on the past movies and and the mental state that I may not may or may not have been in? You guys should really let me put it this way. If I'm sitting here telling you guys that a Hallmark movie was good or that I liked it, um that might be me telling you guys that I've been kidnapped and I need help. Oh, please. Similar to how, like, if you called me on the phone and called me Dan. Are you referencing 9021? Yes, I am. Yes, I am. I would know immediately that there was something wrong. So if I'm sitting here telling you guys that Hallmark movies are good and I'm enjoying them, something's wrong.
SPEAKER_00:No, it's just kind of you you like to be Mr. Cranky Pants when we all know that you're a softie at heart. And I know that you're excited for the third movie of the three wise men in the baby series.
SPEAKER_01:I am not.
SPEAKER_00:Yes, you are. We had a well, we I had a comment that said um my friend from Michigan, she said, not your husband ignoring you when you brought up Xenon, which you did ignore me when I said they should do Xenon for What's Xenon? Girl of the 21st century. Zoom, zoom, zoom. You just want me to sing fine. I I'm always happy to sing Xenon. Zoom, zoom, zoom. Make my heart go boom, boom. My supernova girl. Xenos Lapitas, Daniel.
SPEAKER_02:I've never heard of this.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, jeez. You got to stop it. And then she said, also, I agree with your husband and you. Carrie Ann is my least favorite judge, but I can't lose her because we all need a common enemy. So my second least fave, so he's on the chopping block, has to be Derek. And then she said, I want Kim to be a judge, who Kim was the guest judge for uh, was Kim the guest judge for not for Wicked Night, because that was John Shu, the director. Kim was the guest judge for the most memorable night. Yeah, I think that's a good one. So that's why we were talking about that. So yeah, there's that.
SPEAKER_02:And then didn't she agree with me on contemporaries as well?
SPEAKER_00:Low-key, low-key, kind of. We think she's in agreement with both of us. We think if you're gonna do like we we think it really should go back to the way it was when on dancing with the stars, let's just talk about dancing with the stars now. Okay, since we're into it.
SPEAKER_02:Let's do it.
SPEAKER_00:All right, so we think that dancing with the stars should go back to how it used to be, where I mean, it's fine to have a few theme nights. Like Wicked works for because that was the most recent one, because we have the movie coming out, so fine. You know, toe that company line, do the Disney one each year, but change it up, add stuff like Xenon, and then um what am I? Oh, Halloween. That's gonna be the theme night that will be tonight, yeah, as you're listening to this episode. So I think that's fine too. That's like Halloween, it's all about the cut it off. But then stop it. Like, if you're gonna do something, do like a Latin night and then do the Latin style dances. The problem is, and a lot of these newbie fans that haven't been around that aren't like Daniel and I, where we're sitting on the couchy and like, oh, they didn't do somber rolls, deduct, oh, they were out of step there, oh, too much messing about. Like, we've been watching the show for years, so we kind of like we'll say stuff and then the judges will say what we say, you know, we're that good. But they don't realize, like, they'll see like a dance that's in the style of jazz, for example, that is meant to be fun and entertaining, but then they'll see somebody do like a rumba, which is one of the hardest dances to do, and they'll be like, Well, this dance was better, or they'll see like the quick step, and they'll be like, Well, I don't understand why that got a 10, but this one didn't. So it'd be a lot easier if we at least chose two dance styles each week to compare.
SPEAKER_02:No more than two, so that you've got half your contestants doing the same dance at a very gatekeeping on any given night, so that you can do better comparison. Because anytime you get like I just cringe when I see obviously they don't do freestyle until the very end of the season. But anytime I see jazz, anytime I see contemporary, and like one or two people get that style, it's like, oh well, I know who's getting high scores this week.
SPEAKER_00:No, jazz doesn't get high scores.
SPEAKER_02:Contemporary usually contemporary usually does. You have to be really good at jazz to get a high score. Uh it irritates me because like well, I don't even know if I said it last week, but like i the whole barefoot thing was contemporary. Is that like the only rule contemporary has that you've got to be barefoot? It's just it it when you compare, you don't when you're doing a foxtrot and you're truly and and and you've got a person who's been really struggling with frame, right? And then they do a foxtrot and then they do a contemporary, you can hide a lot of those problems in a contemporary that you can't hide in a foxtrot. And to me, it's just you should be they should have to go through like the traditional styles, and contemporaries should come later in the season.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I think like honestly, if they're my my like hope would be, and I think only one couple is getting because normally we get a Daniela and Whitney contemporary on Halloween night, but they've already had contemporary. I think somebody's getting a contemporary. Oh, Jan and Jen, and they're gonna join a Taylor Swift's song, so I think he'll thrive at that because ballroom's definitely not his strong suit. But I think like if you're gonna do contemporaries, you should do them all on Halloween night because some of our most memorable Dancing with the Stars dances, like Amon and Daniela from a few years ago, have been in the contemporary style. I I think like what you're seeing, like there was a lot of discourse in the recent Wicked episodes, which I think people are just hating on her and Mark because they're new people that have watched the show and they don't understand, and it's just like she's the one, the villain, Whitney, who is arguably, in my opinion, the best dancer this season. Just but the best dancer doesn't always win. Sometimes it does, not always. She and Mark did a quick step, might have been one of the best quick steps I've literally ever seen on the show. And people were like, Well, how come that got tens, but Robert and um Alex did it? Well, one Robert and Alex both danced jazz, they had way less to do than what Whitney and Mark had to do in quick step. So that's that's a reason why, because the quick step is so much more like difficult. And I think that like I think if you had everybody doing like the like a rumba in one night, you'd really be able to see and highlight differences. Like, I still can't get past that. Dylan had one of the highest scoring contemporaries when I felt like his was one of the worst to me. But I felt like they were in some of his fans are so like mixed bag. Like you have people that were like so mad about what he scored on Wicked Night. I'm like, I feel like he was finally judged fairly on Wicked Night, you know?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I agree.
SPEAKER_00:I think they like in like Carrigan said it's almost like there's two different competitions going on right now, and I get that, but it would be so much more helpful to the viewers if we could go back to those old ways. And I think what I've read a lot of conversations from the pros that say that the theme nights sometimes make it harder for them to do their jobs because they're ha they're getting they'll get like a weird song that they have to do like a rumba to. Like it just like I like it can be really like and some of the songs were wicked, were difficult.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, wicked dedication night seems really tough to me, especially with how they did it this year, where they try where they said you gotta incorporate the person that you're dedicating it to. And it was just so uneven because you had some people who really incorporated that person almost into the whole dance. I know we talked about this last week, so we'll move on. And and some who didn't, and it's just it's so inconsistent, but I agree. The main if I had if I were the the the king of dancing with the stars and I had to do one thing, it would be no more than no more than three different styles a night. Yeah. That way everybody is dancing, at least two or three couples a night, especially at the beginning when there's a lot of contestants, are dancing the same style, so you can look at them together at the same and go, Oh, I see. Oh, I see.
SPEAKER_00:And I think at the end of the day, it's not that deep. It's a fun, silly show about dancing. I'm glad that it's getting a new audience, but it's actually like one of my favorite things to do would always be to like debrief on Reddit, which Reddit, like people would argue back and forth, but it was like fine. Like it wasn't like that, you know, it wasn't like hateful or like I'm starting to think like Hilario Baldwin is on to something about like the bullying. Like, it is so bad. Like, I know, and I've already seen like Ezra, one of the pros, talked about like how it is impacting some of the pros. Like it's just it's so like vicious. Basically, what's happening is people are almost treating it like sports, which I don't think in my you know, you know, higher age that like you should be like this about sports. But if you like say you're a fan of like Alex and Val or like Robert and Whitney, you feel like you can't like anybody else and you have to tear all the competitors down. And Whitney and Mark are getting it bad. And one of the things that's driving me nuts is that the whole thing about like as Whitney has a dance background every season. There are multiple contestants with dance backgrounds. You you would be hard pressed to ever have a show without anybody with a dance background because of just being in the entertainment industry for one. But let's see, Charlie DeMulio, dance background, and then Heather Morris literally was a paid backup dancer for Beyonce. She was on the show. Now, did she win? No, she did go out, you know. I probably like I think that Whitney's not gonna make the finals for the same reason because it seems like that's the one everybody's dumping on. But this is nothing new. I like to watch good dancing, and Whitney, like, she studied it in college and then like stopped dancing and was a mom for several years and was making silly TikTok dances. I do think there is a difference with someone like Hilaria Baldwin, who literally competed in ballroom against our current pros on the show. But people gotta get off this like train. It's it's really annoying. And then, like, people are complaining about favoritism. If anything, I think Robert Irwin is the one that's getting the favoritism. And I love Robert Irwin, and I think Robert Irwin is still gonna win. And I think it's fine. I'm fine with that. He seems like a great guy, but come on, people. It's it's it's a silly, fun, entertaining show at the end of the day. Do you agree? It's just a fun show. It shouldn't be taken that seriously. People shouldn't be making such horrible comments about the way people look. It's just it's it's ugly. Stop it. Be better. What do you think about that? Just the because you don't get into the discourse as much as I do, but it has been bad, like straight up, like nasty behavior, Daniel. Like I've never been.
SPEAKER_02:I don't engage with uh this show anytime. They aren't there are two times a week when I engage with anything with the stars, when I'm watching it and on this podcast.
SPEAKER_00:Yes.
SPEAKER_02:And that's and I'm happy to keep it that way. So, anyways, who went home last week?
SPEAKER_00:Well, Scott and Riley went home, and I don't think anybody was really shocked by that. I think on other seasons, Scott would have maybe stuck around a little bit longer, but um he just, you know, when you don't have the fan vote and you don't have the scores, it's your time to go. Plus, he's gotta get he's start he's getting on a tour soon, pentatonics. It's Christmas time.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, he's gotta get ready for Christmas.
SPEAKER_00:So I I I did feel bad that he went home on Wicked Night because Wicked is like his favorite um musical. But he uh he kind of spun it like when they did the interview, he was like, you know what? If you're gonna go out, like I might as well go out on my favorite night. I think and he I listened to them on the Dancing with the Stars podcast, and he basically said like they would nail the routines in like their camera blocking days. But when he would get up there and he's like, and I didn't think I'd be impacted by this because you know he is on stage all the time, but he said it's just so different that he would forget, and you could see where he would sometimes forget and mess up, and he would get a little bit nervous and in his head, but as a whole, he said it was a great experience. Um, I was I feel like we thought it was gonna be if it wasn't Andy, it would probably be Scott, and we were a little worried about Jen. It was not a double elimination. Andy um had his, he did dance jazz in your favorite styles, but I think Andy like is like Scott, in my opinion, improved a little bit, but he wasn't improving enough. And Andy actually has improved, like his timing was on. I Andy is the perfect example. Like, people are like, Oh, stop voting for Andy for out of empathy. There's a lot of people that are Conan super fans, my cousin included, who's never watched the show until this year. She's gonna vote Andy no matter what. It's not about empathy, and that he is improving. And if you are the type of person you want to see somebody with literally no dance experience go on, like that people enjoy watching that journey. I think that Andy might make it another week. And I think Jin, I'm worried for Jen, and I'm worried a little bit worried for Elaine for this week.
SPEAKER_02:I I I think much I don't know that bad dancers have made it farther than this. So it's not like this is unprecedented, and he's not, and I'm not even saying Andy's bad. Like you said, he has gotten better every week, and this last week was his best dance. And on this show, as long as your last dance was your best dance and you've got a fan base, yeah, you've got a shot.
SPEAKER_00:Um, but I I I it's gonna be getting hard this week, Your Honor.
SPEAKER_02:Truly see just from the the spirit of competition, this week it's time for Andy to go. Go out, have fun with a Halloween dance, but there's just no way he improves enough over the course of one week.
SPEAKER_00:I think the judges will be harder on him.
SPEAKER_02:He's not gonna improve enough over one week to overtake some of those other people that are at the bottom. They're just better than that.
SPEAKER_00:That means that if he has the fan vote that'll overlook the five, oh yeah, if he has the fan vote, they'll carry him. It's a huge part of it. They danced to in the Emerald City. Let's just talk about Wicked Night. Uh, John Shu, the director of the Wicked movies, was the guest judge, and I thought he did a great job guest judging. I think at first he was like, oh, you guys are really scoring people high, so I'm gonna start giving some higher scores to you. Um, but as a whole, for when it comes to theme nights, I am a Wicked super fan. I'm ups I was obsessed, and they did it in order, so that was really fun for me. As somebody who's not obsessed with Wicked but have heard the songs 50 million times, how what did you think about Wicked Night?
SPEAKER_02:Um, it was fine. I think several of the songs I I could see how they would be incredibly difficult to choreograph for because they're not necessarily dancing songs. Um and and that's the queer thing about the again. We've we've kind of harped on the on the theme nights, but it's like popular was and they did a good job, like changing the song a little bit to kind of fit purpose, but that's a tough song because that's a song with a lot of dialogue in it.
SPEAKER_00:And popular is not an easy song to dance to, and all the pros have the option to um fine-tune the music, and Mark, like, because everyone was like, Oh, Mark, they changed the song to make it appropriate for quick step. I was like, How are they gonna do a quick step to this? And Mark is musically gifted, he is also a singer, so hey, level up your game to the pros, and I think it worked because they sped that up. I did see one of the haters was like, Well, Whitney's not blonde, and I'm like, Well, no one was green except for Whitney's husband in the audience. What was up with that?
SPEAKER_02:No one was green. We've had multiple episodes of this show, this season, where people were in some pretty extreme body pain. And then and then on Wicked Night, nobody's green.
SPEAKER_00:Only Whitney's husband in the audience was green. That's just such and you put you're like, he's green. Yeah, like that's I really like that both Whitney and Mark were both like glindified. I thought Alex and Val did a great job to what is this feeling? They I liked how they stuck with like the outfits though to be similar to the different scenes, so they kind of wore like the Shiz outfits. I what's the one I really I really think that the and they got a 10 too. Like Whitney was the first 10 of the night, but Jordan and Ezra, I'm telling you, every week they're coming on. They the judges finally are scoring Jordan the way she should be, and they did a rumba to for good. They closed out the show, and I loved that Ezra was in the Glenda look. I just love it. That was a great dance. He gave her a lot of content. He put in little winks to the wicked super fans because there was like they did this like finger touch, which is a reference to a Cynthia Ariana interview. So if you know, you know. And Ezra really took people's comments in that first episode and has done his choreography. If people are voting right, I feel like Jordan deserves a spot in those finals. And I honestly think she could win if it wasn't for the fact that I don't see anybody beating Robert Irwin at this point.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I mean it it because when you get to the finals, the finals is so much about just the the vote. The fans because you rarely see anything outside of tens and nines in the finals. And so it's not really the judges are really kind of seeding their ceding their power to the fans at that point. So I agree with you. I she's coming on strong, but I don't know. Again, we can't see into the voting to know for sure.
SPEAKER_00:I wish you would get those breakdowns.
SPEAKER_02:But I just I feel like Robert Irwin. Has such a massive lead over everybody else. He's so likable. And he's so likable, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:So I and I think he's getting his tens this week. I think he's gonna get his tens this week. Don't worry.
SPEAKER_02:Who's going home to this week?
SPEAKER_00:I think that Andy's gonna live and see another day. And I think I'm I'm worried for Jen and I'm a little worried for Elaine, who knocked it out of the park, by the way. Elaine was great with the Defying Gravity dance for Wicked.
SPEAKER_02:Uh I think Andy's gone. I think this will be his week. Yep. I I think he's gone. I've said that three weeks in a row. Now it has been true, so I look forward to not being true again this week.
SPEAKER_00:Alright. Well, um, Dancing with the Stars will do their Halloween night, which we'll review on our next episode of the podcast. But before we move into some show content, I should have done this earlier, but it's just a perfect segue to do Dancing with the Stars earlier. Let's let's break it up a little bit. Halloween favorites, Daniel. I'm gonna put you on the spot unless you actually read your show notes. What is your favorite Halloween movie?
SPEAKER_02:Um, as you noted earlier, I'm not particularly a connoisseur of the Halloween mediums, so to speak. Uh, so I'm just gonna default to my old favorite trick-or-treat.
SPEAKER_00:Trick-or-treat.
SPEAKER_02:The 2007 classic.
SPEAKER_00:Alright, my favorite is Hocus Pocus.
SPEAKER_02:The love, actually, of Halloween movies. Trick or Treat.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. I thought you were saying about Hocus Pocus, and I was like, oh so. No, I wasn't. Alright, my favorite is Hocus Pocus. What is your favorite Halloween candy?
SPEAKER_02:Okay, now this one.
SPEAKER_00:Um I knew you were gonna question this question.
SPEAKER_02:I have I need clarification. What counts as Halloween candy versus not Halloween candy? I don't know.
SPEAKER_00:Like obviously candy corn, which you throw in the trash, but like stuff like candy corn, like mini-sized Snickers, fun-size like butterfingers.
SPEAKER_02:So just a fun-size pack of sour patch kids. Done.
SPEAKER_00:I knew you were gonna say that.
SPEAKER_02:Like just whatever my favorite candy is can also be considered Halloween candy, so I mean it's easy.
SPEAKER_00:I knew you were gonna be meaningful. I'm not gonna pick candy corn. I'm not a criminal. I'm gonna go with for some reason I like to eat my little Snickers when I eat uh Halloween candy. Alright, what is your favorite Halloween decoration?
SPEAKER_02:Um, I really am quite a big fan of my five-foot-tall skeleton sitting in a camping chair on our side of our house.
SPEAKER_00:With spider on it. I agree.
SPEAKER_02:When he converts to Christmas and I put my Christmas Santa hat on him and make me keep him out. Then he stays out there until January, and uh that's my favorite Christmas um decoration. There, I covered both.
SPEAKER_00:All right. Now, because we're over TV centric podcast, what is your favorite TV show Halloween episode? I've been watching some Halloween episodes already, so I have some stuff fresh in my mind a little bit.
SPEAKER_02:Can you go first then? Because I have like blanking here all of a sudden. Because we just got done, we were like discussing Christmas and Halloween and Thanksgiving episodes like two days ago, and now you're making me think Halloween, and I'm like, I don't know that I recall.
SPEAKER_00:I have two. So actually I have three. I'm not gonna think the list says I'm not picking a favorites. My number one favorite, even though it kind of ends in a bummer because it's sad at the end, but my but until you get to the sad part is the Fraser one where they dress up as like their favorite heroes. I'm going with that one as well. Yeah, I'm going with that one as well. And then in the true slot is gonna be the season, I believe it's season three episode of New Girl with Michael Keaton. Yeah. And Schmidt is a public serpent, but then they have to do like, and so Jess dresses up as Batman to try to Michael Keaton. If you know, you know. And then I have to give the middle props because they had so many, they did Halloween episodes for seasons two through nine, and I really liked the one in the in the very last season, season nine, where Frankie and Brick discover that somebody like died in the house they live in, so they go, they try to figure out like if it if the woman was murdered, which obviously, spoiler alert, she wasn't. And I I I don't know, a Frankie Brick messaround is always a good episode in the middle, the middle highly underrated sitcom. Do you have any Halloween questions for me?
SPEAKER_01:No.
SPEAKER_00:You're just you're so fun. Alright, so Only Murders in the Building, we're coming down to the wire. The finale episode has probably already dropped as the as we as you are listening to this episode. Because I think Hulu just drops their stuff like the day they come out. I think. I think you can watch it any time of day. Uh again, this is the season of I watched the Only Murders, I enjoy it, and then when it comes time to record my podcast thoughts, I completely forget everything that happened. It was revealed that Lester what like there was some reveal like that he killed somebody or something. What? But not h he didn't murder himself.
SPEAKER_02:Um but he something in the episode prior to this, they found the camera footage and showed that the new butt the new Dorman, whose n whose name I cannot recall, um was picking up Lester's elevator crank and it was covered in blood. And so they started thinking maybe it was him, and he explained um that he was he picked it up for some reason, I'm not entirely sure. And so now we're starting to I think we left that episode thinking Lester might be the murderer of the the the mobster guy. Yeah. And I'm I'm really starting I'm on I am now firmly on the track that I think Lester might have actually been an accident.
SPEAKER_00:Well, they the episode ended though with like her mob sons, like where we all thought they were just dopey idiots, like, oh, remember it was like the grandma that like did something. Yeah, but I don't know what they're doing.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, they the grandma's sitting there and she's like she they're pointing a finger at her now, and I'm like, I don't know what's going on here. Maybe Lester like has killed the the mobster guy, their dad, and and her son, I'm assuming.
SPEAKER_00:And so she's gotta take revenge on the Arconius still being sold. There's a lot of pieces.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, it's a mess. I don't know how they're gonna clean it up, but they'll they'll neatly sew it up in a 42-minute episode or so.
SPEAKER_00:It's a mess, but like we enjoy it. Like we'll we'll watch it and we'll be like, we're not gonna remember. We we should probably take notes when we watch the finale, whenever that is. We should probably take some notes so we we can't be like, yeah, we we don't know what happened.
SPEAKER_02:Again, when I'm watching the show, I'm having a good time watching the crew do their thing. But the the the mystery, if you're the if you were if you got into Only Murders in the Building for the mystery element and for the Who Done It element, the last couple seasons have been a bit lacking in that department.
SPEAKER_00:I feel like that's what got us into it, but now we're just there for the trio. I do like that they somehow make have made Paul Rudd stick around because he's voicing like the robot Lester. It's just yeah. We'll we'll have to see. Hopefully it'll turn out well. Now, we have not watched the latest Special Forces, so we'll be talking about that later. But we did watch a whole season, because that's how Netflix does things, old school baby, of Nobody Wants This Season 2 dropped on Netflix. That is the um I go I wouldn't call it a sitcom or a it's like a dramedy. They're very short episodes. So we we didn't even watch it. When I say two days, I mean like two evenings. We were able to finish the season, I think it was ten episodes. Ten episodes, yeah. Ten episodes. That I don't think any episode is probably more than like 35, 40 minutes runtime. Uh I'm not sure.
SPEAKER_02:Not even I don't even think anybody beyond 35. So uh quick call out. Anyone like we said this last week on the podcast because we talked about this a little bit, but anybody looking to hear our thoughts on season one of this show, uh just go back to episodes eighty-four and eighty-five, and we talked about season one there.
SPEAKER_00:But if nobody wants that, then go ahead and skip to this part to the end because you're almost at the end of the episode. Anyway, nobody wants this. Stars Adam Brody, who I have loved for over 20 years, as Dave Ragowski and Seth Cohen, and then Kristen Bell, another millennial favorite. And season one was basically their journey of he is a rabbi, she is a not a Jewish person. I don't even know like what you will call her. Um, and the kind of the ups and downs of navigating that relationship, and you think they're gonna break up at the end of season one, but uh oh. He decides, you know, like you're worth it. Let's proceed, let's have a relationship. They kiss, the show ends. They could have ended it and not done a season two. So I felt like season one, they wrote them in a way like if they didn't get picked up, it would have been fine. Right. And so then we have pick up season two, and a few months have passed, their relationship's progressing, but there's still kind of that like uh plot point of where I think there's been some people that were frustrated about it. They're like, Well, I thought he said, you know, he accepted her for her and that she's all that mattered, and it didn't matter if she was gonna convert to Judaism or not. But it becomes kind of a major point because he doesn't he gets passed over for the job as like head, I don't know, head rabbi, is that what they call it at the synagogue? I'm not really sure. And he they're kind of ha they're having like a dinner party with their friends, and he's like, Well, you know, we we like she probably will be converting soon or something. So like that's another like conflict, and she you can tell she like wants to, but she wants to feel like feel something. But the conflict should convert.
SPEAKER_02:She doesn't want to do it just because she wants to do it for him, she wants to do it, and and by the way, this is she is correct, which is an absolute bad guess, is that she wants to do it because she wants to do it, and she feels the pull to do it, and the whole conflict of the season is one, they're not really talking to each other about that and other things very well. They're they're really not communicating well, bad communications, and and two, she keeps trying, and this is of course, you know, the epiphany she comes to at the end of the season. She's trying she thinks it's gonna be like this big like lightning bolts lightning bolt moment, and then she sees her mother have that big lightning bolt moment about the same thing. And so she's really frustrated because she's not feeling that you know, feeling like that, and he's getting frustrated because now he's going to a different, he's working in a different synagogue, which is a little bit more, you know, loose and and and lax with how things are, and he's trying to adapt to that environment, and she's trying to adapt to, you know, make this big decision because she feels they both they both acknowledge eventually that like this a relationship can't move forward until this issue is solved. One way or the other, this issue has to be resolved because they're not communicating well because they're try I think they're trying to avoid fights and arguments.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, so they're just not communicating their feelings. Like before he interviewed for that job in one of the episodes, he's like, I just need a night off. Like the way he said it, he could have said it better. Right. So I do like it that this show is very realistic about any couple issues with communication, and like she completely read into that, like he wants nothing to do with me, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. When really he was just like, Yeah, I just wanna, you know, I need some time to prep and no distractions. That's like how he should have said it. But instead of really communicating, they kind of got like there was like an irritation that kind of built up. And I do think that happens with it's like basically a lot of the season was the hallmark points where we have the brief conflict, but that's like almost all the season where they just don't talk and they don't talk. I do think that you know, this sounds like a very serious show, but they they do it in a way that makes you laugh and makes you enjoy it, and you want to see you you do want to root for these characters, you want them to be together. The chemistry is there, and you're like, for the love of God, communicate your feelings. Now, obviously, neither one of us are Jewish and are not totally familiar with Judaism, but I did think it was interesting, like what you said about like when he does accept a job at like the new place, it kind of I feel like the best comparison I could come with as somebody who attended like you know, like Christian churches would be one that like maybe the one that that's more formal, where they have like the prayers at a certain time, communion at a certain time, and they do things, and then you have like the church that has like the rock band and you get to wear jeans to church. Like, I feel like that's like the different vibe. And as somebody that like sometimes I would go to church with like a more formal church, and then I'd go to a more like a laid-back church with some friends, I would almost always different.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I would almost think of it like g going from a really strict Catholic church to like one of those churches that like does the has the guitars and the drum guys up there. Like that would be like gymstones. That would be yeah, yeah, yeah. Like that would be a very like um abrupt and and strange change. And if you had to go adapt to that, which I know it's not exactly a parallel because Catholicism and Protestantism are are different branches in a certain way, but but if if it felt like that, that kind of like very abrupt change for him.
SPEAKER_00:But we know he likes to help people, and that's I think is part of his favorite part of being a rabbi and something that means a lot to him. And I think that if we with season three has not been officially confirmed yet, but it's pretty much assumed it's gonna get renewed. So I'd like to see them progress with that. It was fun to see Adam Brody's real life wife, Layton Meester, who played Blair Waldorf on Gossip Girl, so another millennial favorite, um, show up in an episode as kind of like the influencer girl. And at one point he's like, Yeah, I don't think she's very attractive. And I just thought that was funny. Because like that's his real life wife. So I saw somebody who was like, This show is so millennial cringe, and I'm like, and that's why we like it. Let's see, let's talk about the soundtrack. We have a Chapel, Sabrina, uh, Taylor Swift, Charlie XEX, like all like gangs all here with the music that they did. Um, when it comes to the characters, Sasha is still my favorite. That is um Noah's brother, Noah is Adam Brody's character. And I'm very glad they did not go forward with making Sasha have an affair with um Joanne. That's Kristen Bell, that's her sister Morgan's character. I a lot of people, they have great chemistry. I need them to stay as friends. And Sasha kind of has his own storyline with his wife, Esther, and you know, them trying to figure out like their daughter's finally getting older. Should they have another baby? Like clearly, like it's stated that they got together because they had gotten pregnant, and I think she's almost having a bit of a midlife crisis, Esther. It turns out they're not pregnant, but she's like, I don't even know, like myself, I don't know like who we are. And he makes a statement at the end, like if she thinks she can run around and go find herself, he's like, and then I'll be waiting. She's like, he's like, she's exactly right because I will be. I do not want them to take this as of because obviously Esther and Sasha are gonna be on a bit of a break, if you will. I don't want them to take that as an opportunity to put him and Morgan. I really don't. I want him and Morgan to remain friends, and I think Morgan needs a friend.
SPEAKER_02:She needs a friend. I think they work better as friends, honestly. Like, I in general, I just don't think I hope that's not the way they go. I don't think that's the way they're gonna go.
SPEAKER_00:But I think they're doing enough to tease those people that want them to go.
SPEAKER_02:You gotta keep those people watching until the end and then be like, oh, sorry. Rug pull. We were never doing that.
SPEAKER_00:For Morgan, she needs somebody that she, I mean, for goodness sakes, one of her side plots was that she ended up dating her therapist, Dr. What was his Dr. Andy? Dr. Andy. Dr. Andy, who I think it was funny because all the succession people were like Leo Point, because they like they were both in succession, both actors. And there would be times where we would be like, okay, we don't hate Dr. Andy, but I could never get on board with that relationship. Yeah. Because that is so horribly unethical.
SPEAKER_02:No, I agree. It was I just can't. So I'm glad they didn't work out. And it feels like, you know, there were moments when the show where they tried to make us seem like we liked him. But then there were moments where they were like, nah, you shouldn't. It would knock us to reality. Yeah, I think I think that was what they wanted to give us was like, no, this isn't a bad dude. Like, Dr. Andy's not a bad dude, but this is a weird and unethical situation, and it really shouldn't be the case.
SPEAKER_00:We still have the conflict with obviously Noah's mom, because Joanne is not Jewish. There was an episode early on where his mom kind of walks in with her sunglasses on to their basket to the basketball game to go confront Joanne, that baddie, baddie behavior. And I really liked the moment of his mom bonding with Morgan in the bathroom. Like those are two strong females that could butt heads. I just, I don't know. The show we we flew through it. It was really good. I think probably season one is a little bit better. Um, I do agree with some of the criticisms that I I mean, you and I literally said it together.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I said it as soon as it was over.
SPEAKER_00:That it ended pretty much the same way. Season one ended, where they it all comes to a head at the engagement party for the wedding that thankfully does not happen with Morgan and Dr. Andy. And they they decide, you know, it's too much, he's not ready to convert, they're gonna split and go their separate ways. And just as she finally decides, after a conversation with Esther, where Esther's like, hey, you're basically already Jewish, and starts like naming all these like characteristics. She's like, it's not really a feeling, it's like, you know, what do you want? Like how you behave. And she decides that Joanne decides that she can convert. And then at the same moment, his character, Anna Brody's character, Noah, has an epiphany that she is enough. I don't need her to convert. She's all I want. What am I doing? And it was very similar to the ending of season one where they both they're about to break up, they have the epiphany, they see each other, and then they get back together. So I'm yeah, you were like, This is how they ended season two.
SPEAKER_02:It is how they ended it.
SPEAKER_00:And they are getting dragged about it online.
SPEAKER_02:The characters did progress. Like they had that epiphany, they've both come to the real he she's come to the realization that if that's what needs to happen, she can do it, and maybe even she wants to. And he's come to the epiphany that he doesn't need her to, he can get over it and deal with it because it's there's more important things. But the way that they brought it all together felt exactly the same. Was exactly the same.
SPEAKER_00:I think going forward for season three, the conflict just needs to be her actually going through the conversion process and what that means to her and still the family dynamics. There's still a lot. I want I really came to like Esther, Sasha's wife, or whatever you want to call her now. And I need, and I like that she and Joanne were more friends. I like that she seems to be, even though she still causes Morgan what, like whore number two or something. I like that I I like I need more of the gals to gather.
SPEAKER_02:I think the the the cast works well together. Yeah, the Esther Sasha storyline, if they do a season three, I think is gonna probably become a more almost like a 1B storyline as opposed to a secondary storyline that as it was in the first two seasons, because you're gonna need more room as the conflict between the main characters starts to reduce as they are becoming more and more compatible and getting, you know, they're they're getting over those hurdles. Well, that you're gonna need some some stories to tell.
SPEAKER_00:So that's I think if I have to have a rinse, wash, repeat of Noah and Joanne. We cannot end season three the same way we ended it.
SPEAKER_02:We can't end season three with them breaking up for five minutes, realizing they're stupid, and then running back to each other in a dramatic um meeting. Yeah. Which in this case, last time it was somebody getting on a bus, right? But in the second season, it was literally just they missed the elevator with each other. It was like such a non-dramatic, like, do you guys not have cell phones? Yeah. You know, like, hey, I'm sorry, can I talk to you real quick?
SPEAKER_00:Like one of the things when it comes to their communication issues that drove me nuts was the birthday episode for her mom. She's like, No, my mom likes to do this for her birthday. And she felt and he's like, What? Like, you don't like because his family goes all out for birthdays. So she, instead of just like getting him to be like, no, it's fine, like she ends up putting together this elaborate birthday party that like nobody wants. Guess what? If people don't want an elaborate birthday party, don't force it. Like, do what you want.
SPEAKER_02:Nobody wanted it. Nobody wants this.
SPEAKER_00:Nobody wants this. But I really enjoyed the season. Speaking of Halloween, speaking of Joanne and Morgan's mother on the show, she, and I've told you this like 50 times, and you're like, I don't understand why you're so excited about this connection. It's like, do you even listen to me, Daniel? That actress is the mom in Hocus Pocus. And the mom in Hocus Pocus wore the iconic Madonna cone bra outfit that as kids, as a kid, I was like, wow, this is scandalous. And they have, I don't, they're they caught it this on the show, so please don't say anything. It was like some like Jewish Halloween, and he's like, Don't worry, that's what people call it. I don't know what the actual day is because they said Jewish Halloween about 50 times in this episode, where people dress up in costume, and it was a little wink to those of us that are Hocus Pocus super fans, and of course, you know, they're core and it's millennials, and she wore the cone bra outfit again, that actress for her characterism. And I just I thought that was a really good, like, I gasped, even though I had that part spoiled for me on TikTok, I still gasped when I saw it. And then Daniel's like, Why are you so excited about this? I'm like, boy, do you even listen to me? So that was one of my favorite moments. Um, you wrote down some notes. I always tell Daniel to write notes, and then I know one has to do with an N-Sync t-shirt, but I feel like you wrote down a few different notes.
SPEAKER_02:Um, so I have to while we were watching it. I had some Only Murders notes too, but we'll just let we'll just we'll leave them for the finale when we talk about that. But for Nobody Wants This, um, they made a Holiday and Handcuffs reference.
SPEAKER_00:They did! They did. I don't know what it was for. She was it about like the Christmas or not the Christmas, the birthday episode? She's like, I just wanna Oh, it was when they were having, they were all gathering or something. She's like, This is like that movie. I don't know. They made a reference to Holiday and Handcuffs, which is I don't think it was a Hallmark movie. It was like back when ABC Family was a channel. So it was like their version of a Hallmark movie. Um which we own.
SPEAKER_02:Yes, yes, we do. Um, they're in sync. I think there was somebody who was wearing an in sync movie.
SPEAKER_00:Esther wore an in-sync t-shirt, and I just was like, In sync.
SPEAKER_02:That was noteworthy for some reason.
SPEAKER_00:It was.
SPEAKER_02:Esther also used the term deading it.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, yes. All the Bachelor in Paradise people. Dale kept saying dead it, deaded it the whole time. We've never we've never heard people say that.
SPEAKER_02:A brand new vernacular to me.
SPEAKER_00:Apparently, it was used on Nobody Wants This. So there you go. Um, I'm excited for them to hopefully get a season three. My my biggest beef with the whole season, other than the finale seeming similar, is just too short. I miss the days of long seasons. I I flew through it, but thankfully we only had to wait like a year. So if we get another season, I hope we only have to wait a year again. Give me more. And it's obvious that they're playing younger than they are because those actors are older than us, but I can move past that. That's just Hollywood.
SPEAKER_02:Okay. Well, let's move past it then. Um, to the end of the episode. Do you have anything else to go over?
SPEAKER_00:Oh, the end of this episode? Okay. No. We already kind of did the call. The action was exciting. Yeah, let's do that again.
SPEAKER_02:Listen, everybody. Hey, we run a podcast here. Um, and despite our best efforts occasionally, um, the algorithms need help to, you know, further the out the podcast's growth into the podcast sphere or whatever they call it. So this week, if you uh haven't gotten around to it and you would like to, go out on whatever app. Most of the apps that you can listen from have some form of rating system. Spotify does it one way, Apple does it another.
SPEAKER_00:The other ones, I don't even think I've rated us on Apple.
SPEAKER_02:Great job. Go out and do the rating thing. You know, obviously comments and stuff are always helpful, but those ratings tend to help boost stuff and blah, blah, blah. Nobody really knows how it works. It's like deep magic that just is kind of unknown, but apparently it does do something. So go do that.
SPEAKER_00:Everybody do that. Everybody drag Daniel because he does like hallmark movies, and I hope everybody has a very happy Halloween.
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