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We Watch TV Episode 119 – The Life of a Podcaster

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 Hey, thank you for the lovely bouquet…Hope and Daniel talk about the life of a podcaster, babe! Or not. The hosts do chat Taylor Swift’s latest album and their experience going to The Official Release Party of a Showgirl movie, which featured the new music video and more from Taylor’s The Life of a Showgirl album. The hosts give their reactions to the recent Only Murders in the Building episodes and discuss how season 5 could end. The hosts also cover the season 5 premiere of Abbott Elementary as well as the first two episodes of Special Forces season 4. Conversations continue with Peacemaker season 2 as well as finale predictions regarding the D.C. Comics show. Hope gives her take on the Netflix limited series, Wayward, which was recommended by a listener! The hosts wrap things up discussing the latest Dancing with the Stars eliminations and give their predictions for the rest of the season!

(00:00:00) Intro
(00:01:10) The Life of a Showgirl
(00:16:09) Only Murders in the Building (season 5)
(00:21:34) Abbott Elementary
(00:26:15) Wayward
(00:33:22) Peacemaker (season 2)
(00:42:16) Special Forces (season 4)
(00:48:53) Dancing with the Stars

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SPEAKER_00:

But you don't know the life of a showgirl, babe.

SPEAKER_02:

Can we like get started?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Hey everybody, and welcome to We Watch TV. It is the podcast about the TV that we watch. I am Daniel. She is Hope. This is episode 119. Do you have any more singing you need to get out of your system?

SPEAKER_00:

This is our showgirl era. Wait, what let's do. You don't know the life of a podcaster, baby. Babe, babe. You don't know the life of a podcaster, babe. A part-time podcaster.

SPEAKER_02:

It's a lot of um bits. And um then editing ums out, which I don't do very often. And the Elizabeth Taylor! Obsessing over download numbers.

SPEAKER_00:

And then random stimming.

SPEAKER_02:

And random stimming. Uh so did any major events take place that you wanted to talk about before we do the TV show here? I can't imagine what that could possibly be.

SPEAKER_00:

Happy Taylor Swift new album, TS12 day. Well, not day, I guess time of our lives to all who celebrate. This Taylor, Allison Swift, released the Life of a Showgirl album. I stayed up until midnight to hear the new tracks, and it was instant love for me. Instant it just no skips. And really, I think like I'm hearing like it has gotten, I feel like, um, there's one review from The Guardian, I think that wasn't great, but Rolling Stone and Billboard, I think Rolling Stone gave it like a perfect score, so it's doing well for a lot of critics, and I think some of the because I feel like my TikTok likes to rage bait me. And some people are like, Oh, I don't like this album, but like everybody that I've talked to, pretty much, like all my friends, we all love it and all kind of have the same opinions that it's great. And then I've talked to other people that aren't like huge Swifties, but they like it too because it's more of a pop vibe, and then I've talked to some other people that aren't really Swifties that they kind of liked more of her, you know, depressing music. For me, this album is a no-skip. Every single track is awesome, and I am a pop girly through and through. Like you guys know, I like Sabrina, my fellow short queen.

SPEAKER_02:

That's pop music, not pop or as in soda.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, pop music, although I do like pop. Which, like, you know.

SPEAKER_02:

What did you think of this Canada dry uh zero sugar that I had you try the other day? Speaking of. It's pretty good.

SPEAKER_00:

It's pretty good. I think this is just the laugh of a podcaster, babe. Let's talk about different things.

SPEAKER_02:

So you're the album came out, you're happy with it.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes, and I stayed up so late because I had to listen to it over and over and over again. I love it. Okay, so listen, each of Taylor's albums resonates me, resonates with me for a different reason. Like I've been around since debut, our little country Taylor girl. I r there's different ones that I like for different reasons, but a lot of my very favorites are kind of this more like pop vibe, like Lover, 1989. And I like Midnight's, which is one of the more recent ones I absolutely love. The Tortured Poets Department, that was the one before this. I think I still stand by with what I said that I think that one's still underrated and some of her best like work that she's done, whereas a lot of people would disagree with me and think it's folklore and evermore, which again were great in their own vibe. But that being said, when I like when it comes to just me listening to music and really enjoying myself, this is it. I love it that she's, you know, kind of like in this a happier stage, but I just I love all the songs, they're all great. Like it's no skips, no skips.

SPEAKER_02:

And so the album came out on Friday, the third of October.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes, Mean Girls Day. What day he asked me what day it is. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

September 3rd. Not the first time, not the last time we're gonna talk about Mean Girls on this podcast, but um and then Friday night, you took us to the local movie theater in order to watch the what did they call this?

SPEAKER_00:

The official release party of a showgirl for the life of a showgirl album. It featured, we got to see, they didn't drop the music video on YouTube until Sunday evening. So we got to be like the first people to see that. So they showed you in this it's it wasn't like the Ares tour as like a concert movie because that's not what this was. It was more almost like an album listening party, if I'm being honest.

SPEAKER_02:

It was it listen, for me, for me, it was 25 solid good minutes of entertainment and then an hour of watching um the Windows visualizer with music playing in a dark theater.

SPEAKER_00:

Which you don't dislike the album. You liked the parts about the music video. Like basically, she I really liked it how it kicked it off. She introduced it, and we got to see the music video first thing because I was like, that was it, because I was thinking to myself, I'm like, that's interesting that she showed it to us right off the bat because I knew when I read the description that we were supposed to get behind-the-scenes stuff, but I actually think doing that made it better. So she showed you we got to see the music video right off the bat. Then we get to see like behind the scenes of the creative process of how they shot the video, the themes that they chose, like the theme of Ophelia from Shakespeare. Only this time, you know, Ophelia is not driven crazy by the person she loves. She's you know, yeah, saved in a way.

SPEAKER_02:

Nerdy stuff like camera blocking, lighting, propping, you know, all the nerd stuff that you like.

SPEAKER_00:

So we got to see that, and then she did talk about, and I did like it, and I think you did too, like where she introduced each song and kind of talked about the process, what went into that song, what it means to her, how she came up with that. And I think for you, as more of a casual fan, you would have been cool if she just talked about each track and maybe played like a clip of each track. But basically, what it was, it was a they they did like the lyric videos. And for me, who've been listening to album non-stop, I loved it.

SPEAKER_02:

I mean, and also for me, I'm a person who music and how it interacts in my life is uh is music is a thing that's happening as I'm doing another thing, whether it be working or writing or mowing or running or whatever I'm doing, the music is there, but it's not, and so for me, in my ADHD riddled brain, sitting there in a theater and it's just the music, it's like, oh, I uh it wouldn't matter what the music is, by the way. I'm not this is not a it could be like Foo Fighters, yeah. It could be anything. It's like I've just this is not what I how I want to consume the music.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, what was interesting for me was when I w would look over at you, you would be like he'd be like locked in when she'd be talking about the different shots of the video. Like there was one scene where she catches the football and she she's like, No, let's do it again. And then I really think like the part where they're like on the boat. Yeah, I like that and like they show her jumping off, but she didn't get the shot right. Like, I would look over and you were like completely like locked in, enjoying it. And I think because you like that side of it, the creative side, all like we said, the nerdy stuff. And then I would look at you during the music and you'd be like kind of thinking about the story that you're that you're planning to write right now, which maybe you'll share with our podcaster someday. Daniel has a really good idea for another short story. If you haven't read his uh short story that got published in, I think it was like an online thing. You have a substack, right? Yeah. What is your substack? Promote yourself on our podcast.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh my gosh, are you asking me to do this just off the top of my head? I don't even know. I am I I don't post that often. You're you're you've you've stumped me. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00:

It's the life of a pod.

SPEAKER_02:

I'll post it on social somewhere if anybody wants to see it.

SPEAKER_00:

Maybe we'll put it in the episode description. I don't know. We'll put it on Instagram. Follow us at WeWatch TV Podcast. But yeah, so Daniel came with me to the movie because he is not a um word that rhymes with witch like other people are and supports me. You were one of two men in our theater, well, males, because the other guy, was he like somebody you said it looked like somebody's brother that had to bring their sister?

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, that's what it looked like to me. It looked like a high feet. He had a tool like a high, it was clearly a high school boy bringing his probably middle school sister to it, and yeah, he very intentionally put a black tool hoodie on to come into the theater. I thought I respected it. I thought that was funny.

SPEAKER_00:

I like how my shirt, like, I wore like that classic design of like kind of the mint uh green with the orange font, but I did her quote from the New Heights podcast where she says, Um, let me read the exact quote off my shirt here. I have a picture of the shirt that I wore. My energy is a luxury item, not everyone can afford it as a people pleaser. Tell having to say no and do things has always been that's been like a challenge for me over the past couple years. So that quote really resonated with me. So I had it, I got it from Etsy and it was in the showgirl font. But then I looked around and like other women that were in the theater with me, they all had like the very similar shirt on with a font. And I'm like, we all really look like we're in like an like an organization. It's just the Swifties, man. But I had a great time. I knew that it wasn't gonna be like the Aeristor movie because like obviously she hasn't done a concert. It was basically like a listening party for the album. I definitely like I'm I'm with you though. I think that it could have like they could have been made shorter, but then people might have complained about spending money for something shorter. I feel like it would have been fine to have her talk about each song and then maybe just play the clip instead of like the full lyric video. But again, for me as a Swifty and somebody that loves this album, I didn't mind that at all. But I don't I feel like if somebody uh people have asked me, like, oh did Daniel really have fun doing that? I mean, I don't think it was the most fun you've ever had, but he enjoyed popcorn for dinner, ate it in two seconds, enjoyed Sour Patch Kids. I mean you do like like he like you were like after the movie, you're like, I like like learning about how they make music videos, and you were pointing out what'd you say about like a phone? Like you noticed something I didn't even notice about how they filmed it.

SPEAKER_02:

Uh I thought it looked like they were filming with an iPhone, which is not uncommon these days, particularly because they were using the entire video was shot with handy cam. They they weren't on a a mount, it was all somebody like and it's not shaky cam, they weren't going for that, but it was shot with somebody holding a camera in front of them like this and just walking, not like on any kind of mounting system or anything. And it looked to me like they had uh just an iPhone um in the mount that they had set up there.

SPEAKER_00:

So it's just cool to see the creative process. Like I know the fate of Ophelia, I can tell why she chose that one as her single now. And I like I elevated the song. I think my official ranking list, which always changes because I'm vibes. I'm very can I can I circle back?

SPEAKER_02:

Can I circle back to the thing you were saying earlier when you said you know, whether I enjoyed going or not, and then you told everybody the reasons why I enjoyed more importantly for everybody out there, I like spending time with my wife and and taking an interest in the things that my wife is interested in is a way that we can bond, and everybody should um you know take that to heart with their partner.

SPEAKER_00:

And that is why honey is my favorite song from this album, because while a lot of people use the words like sweetheart, honey in demeaning ways, and I've always felt that in a passive gruffs of nature. Like Taylor says, when somebody says it sincerely to you, it does mean a lot and say you, you can call me honey. Oh, everyone's so sweet.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay, honey.

SPEAKER_00:

Uh I don't even I'm just smiling now.

SPEAKER_02:

Sorry, I just uh okay, you threw me completely off with the whole Substack thing, and now I'm realizing that this computer that I'm using right here is signed out of literally every single account I have, whether it's Facebook or Reddit or Twitter, all of them. It's signed out of every single one of them, and so I'm just sitting here like trying to engage in this conversation, but also bashing my head about the fact that it got signed out of everything and I can't stand it. So apologies. Apologies. Apologies. Apologies. I am at the end of my Adderall um 12-hour window. So that you take give me give me a break.

SPEAKER_00:

I got up with you Sunday morning to watch the Browns in um London.

SPEAKER_02:

Mistake. It was not worth it.

SPEAKER_00:

I guess the Vikings tried to pull out a win since the Steelers beat the Vikings in Ireland the week before. But anyway, circling back, the fate of Ophelia has is my I I think I'd still agree with this. It's my number three favorite track, and I it elevated itself because I liked watching the creative process behind the video. But the way the movie ended, or the release party, whatever you want to call it, a movie, is then we got to see the video again. And I thought it was a lot cooler seeing the video, knowing what we went what like went into it. Oh, I'm so proud of you, by the way.

SPEAKER_02:

When they started the video when they started the movie with the video and then started doing the behind the scenes scenes, I knew they were gonna play it again. I didn't think so. Because that and it gives you that opportunity to then go back and say, Oh, here's all the stuff they showed you, including what I think you're about to say right here.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, I was no, I was super excited because you were like dancing with the stars guy.

SPEAKER_02:

I thought you were gonna talk about the bread.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, and the bread. If you guys watched her New Heights podcast, Taylor Swift is like basically she spent her time after the Aeros Tour making sourdoughs, and she was this is why I like Taylor Swift is that at her core, she's such a nerd, and that's something you and her share in common is you like to make bread. Well, the bread, I don't know, because they dropped the video on YouTube, and I don't know if they talked about the behind the scenes. She was so excited that her bread got to be in the video, and I'm like, that would be you, Daniel, being like so excited that my bread is gonna be the video. I was just praising you that you knew yawn her, that you're gonna be able to do it. Yeah, but I would see I would take it.

SPEAKER_02:

I would I would take it too far. I'd be more like Chandler's cranberries. Then I wouldn't I would not be can bear it. I wouldn't be able to chill about it. I would have to make sure everybody knew that was my bread, and then when they tasted the bread, I'd have to be like, hey, hey, hey, do you like that bread?

SPEAKER_00:

That's kind of how she was though. She was like, make sure you get it in the shots.

SPEAKER_02:

The dog just grow out of me.

SPEAKER_00:

He's like, to quote another Taylor Swift song. You're being too loud. You need to calm down. All right, so I know our listeners don't want us to talk about Taylor Swift the whole time. So I bet they don't. We can talk about Taylor Swift all the time. My I'm just gonna give my top three because it hasn't changed from the album, Honey, because you can call me Honey, Actually Romantic. I love it, me some petty Taylor. Sorry, I do. And then I would put the fate of Ophelia in my three slot. And talking to some of my other friends that aren't exactly Swifties, they were like that, but I've listened to the album, enjoyed it, they're all like, oh, that was my favorite track. Watching the video, I can see why she chose the fate of Ophelia to be her single. So, Daniel, what is your favorite song from the album?

SPEAKER_02:

Okay, so this the you're you're you're you're asking me my favorite, but then I know you're also gonna ask me for a number two and a number three. Yeah, I know. This is difficult for me, but I need to explain why it's difficult for me because the way that she listens to this music is she's just playing it, so it's I'm just hearing it somewhere in the house or in the car. Walking around the house stimming probably, and I don't have access to the the the information of what song is this? And so uh the phedophilia is the one I think is is my favorite. I think it stands out the most. The video really helped kind of solidify that for me as well. Um, I do like Life of a Showgirl, particularly, I think, after hearing the explanation about what it was about. Yeah, and of course, then I saw that amazing TikTok a couple minutes ago with Miss Piggy, and that just like really. You also like Sabrina, who is featured on the internet. Um and then probably maybe the Elizabeth Taylor one, and I don't know really.

SPEAKER_00:

Elizabeth Taylor, that's probably because you've been hearing me all day just randomly shouting Elizabeth Taylor.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Alright, well, believe it or not, guys, we did also um we've been watching some TV.

SPEAKER_02:

I don't believe that actually. I can't, it feels like it feels like that because we don't have a show that we're binging right now. Yeah, like we're we have no binge show whatsoever at the moment, and so all we're doing is sitting around waiting on weeklies to come out. I personally feel like we're watching nothing. If that does that make sense, yeah. It feels like we're watching nothing.

SPEAKER_00:

You could join me and watch Love is Blind that I just started.

SPEAKER_02:

Strong pass.

SPEAKER_00:

Alright, well, we have been watching Only Murders. We've watched two episodes since, and we're getting through this season, guys. So we watch um season five, episode six, Flatbush, and this is where the investigation takes Oliver and Loretta, so we get to see the return of Meryl Streep back to the streets of his childhood, where buried memories surface and secrets about Lester and Nikki's widows emerge. Um, Mabel and Charles follow leads after our break-in. So we got to kind of learn more about Oliver in that one, where he grew up. I didn't know he was in foster care. We got to kind of see how he got into the theater. It's always good to see Meryl back. She was like, I need to do my monologue from the Louisiana like girl that fell in the well. And I'm like, only Meryl Streep can be such a good actress that she can come off like a bad actress in the middle of something. And then we also watched the most recent episode we watched was episode seven. Um, Silver Alert, the mayor warns the trio about yet.

SPEAKER_02:

I was like, what are you talking about?

SPEAKER_00:

I'm very confused. I don't think I screenshotted these right.

SPEAKER_02:

Um, but I so they've done the classic thing where they're following the the wives of the two guys that have died, the the Dorman and the mobster, those two wives. They think maybe they have like um something to do with it. And I'm I'm in true Only Murders fashion, like it was a false lead of course in that situation. So I don't I still don't and now and they they they teased us at the end by making us think that we're back to um the billionaire people.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay, so we watched episodes five and six.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Um this episode five was that was where they were thwarted in their investigative podcast plans. Mabel and Oliver look for help from the Arconia support staff. So they're trying, like they basically they did in the episode before that, which I'm not sure we talked about a lot because there was so much going on, was they met like the billionaires that are kind of they'd seen um, you know, in that room, that casino, and then they get actually get a podcast deal with like I think something that's supposed to be stored on like iHeartRadio or something. Right. But it turns out the people that like bought that studio are these billionaires, and they can't mention their names at all in any of the recordings they're doing. So we have that conversation.

SPEAKER_02:

But they also kind of got convinced that some the the billionaires kind of convinced them they weren't involved in the murder in the first place. But now at the end of this last episode we just watched, we find out maybe not because the the weird Rocky Four robot butler dorman guy that's walking around the place who the records everything, they ask him to show him surveillance video, and he ends up showing them the video, but in both cases the video is edited, and so then they try to figure out who's the security company, and oh no, I could not believe it. The vi the company's owned by Christoph Waltz's character, who's one of the big tech billionaires, and that that now we're turning our sights back to. And I still think because of where we're at in this season, it was soon like we're too early to be really well.

SPEAKER_00:

They've tried to pin it on Lester's wife, they've tried to pin it on Teo Leone, the mobs from the world. I still think she knows more than what she's letting over.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

I don't I don't really know, like I can tell you honestly, I have no idea where this season's going. Like, I have no suspects. It seems like it's kind of we have multiple scattered storylines. I don't I I'm I enjoy every episode we watch. I love watching that trio together. It's just easy viewing, it's fun, but I have like no theories. Like, I think I was telling you the reason why I had to get in and look up the descriptions is like I'll watch it, then I forget what happened the previous week. So I don't know if that bodes well. I mean, what do you think? Like, are you with me? Like, I I have no theories, I have no clue. I'm just here for the ride at this point because I think we only have 10 episodes.

SPEAKER_02:

You know, the thing is, multiple years in a row now, they've basically made it almost impossible until the last couple episodes to have a theory about who did it. Um, and there's nothing wrong with that, but I do think that sometimes if you're watching a murder show, the fun some people have fun trying to figure that out. And I and so I could see it being frustrated if that's your only goal is to try and figure out who did it, because I don't think they're not doing a great job of dropping hints.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. If it wasn't like set up in a comedy way and it was just a typical series, like I would be irritated.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, but because it's in the framing of a comedy, it's a little bit easier to take that as, oh, we're just here having a fun ride, and we do, and then the cast, you know, the cast has their chemistry and and we enjoy that, so I think you know, uh I'm not that worried about who who done it. They'll let us know.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, they'll let us know.

SPEAKER_02:

It can't be worse than um last season.

SPEAKER_00:

You just really wanted Scott Bacchula to be the person doesn't admit it. Okay, so what else? Oh, Abbott Elementary. We did watch that, um, the season five premiere. And that's one show that we usually let stack, but as you said, we have no new shoe show, so I believe it was last night. We were like, we need to watch something like while we eat dinner, what can we watch? And I just happened to see that season five premiere. And the school's not in session yet, so I like that they did an episode when a lot of teachers have to do those in-service days, kind of those team building things, which every job I think has like weird team building workshop stuff. But this was an episode where they have the teachers come in and it was like, Oh, like this is what's gonna happen the school year, you have to go out and do these team building, and essentially, like the guy, like the actual team building activities he was trying to get them to do were a failure, but then they ended up coming together and actually doing a team building activity by helping Mr. Johnson, the janitor, learn to ride a bike.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Is that just like a sitcom thing? I feel like every sitcom I've watched, and I feel like it started with friends. Some poor adult doesn't know how to ride a bike. So, like some, and it's always the weird adult of the friend groups, like Phoebe. So like Ross gets her the bike. But I feel like I've seen this. I I can't think of another show, so maybe if I'm just thinking of friends, but I I I feel like Well Fraser did it, didn't they? Frasier, yes, good job. So would Frasier have done it before? I don't know when I don't know. I feel like that would have been those shows came out so close. Yeah, because that was the Niles and Daphne were already together, so that would have been the back end of Fra because you know like Niles bike was like the weird bike, like someone stole their bikes or something, so they had to like borrow bikes. Yeah, and maybe it's just like a fun, they're like, let's get the weird people and make them ride a bike.

SPEAKER_02:

If we have any corporate CEOs listening, which I mean probably not, um can you just like stop it with the team building stuff? Like, for instance, the whole let's go around in a circle and all name an interesting fact about ourselves. Stop it. Everybody stop it. Nobody likes it, and nobody remembers what anybody else said.

SPEAKER_00:

What would be your interesting fact?

SPEAKER_02:

I don't have one. Don't don't make me do that.

SPEAKER_00:

That are you kidding me?

SPEAKER_02:

The last time that I had to do that in an actual situation, um, they asked what was the last concert you went to, and in front of a group of my peers, I had to say that I went to the what the like the Pop 2000s tour 2000s tour featuring OCON, Chris Kirkpatrick of NSync, Ryan Cabrera, and BB Mack. Yeah. So stop it.

SPEAKER_00:

And the thing is, like, it some what some people find interesting, other people might not find interesting, you know.

SPEAKER_01:

Right.

SPEAKER_00:

That's why it's always like, like, I might find like it's really interesting if somebody like ran a marathon where other people are like boring, you know, like I just worry about like I guess, and and this just could be me.

SPEAKER_02:

Whenever I'm in those things, it's like if I say something too out of pocket, but out of context, people are gonna think I'm weird, so I'm gonna have to come up with the most beige answer I could possibly come up with, but then everybody thinks I'm beige.

SPEAKER_00:

I usually use my friend's celebrity connections for my thing, like, hey, I went to high the same high school Nick Swisher, baseball player, went to, or I'll be like, hey, Jennifer Garner used to babysit one of my best friends. But if you don't care about celebrities, you're like, what?

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, exactly. So I don't know. I just just stop it with this.

SPEAKER_00:

Well the guy, okay, so the guy from Shrinking, um, the the the patient I remember his name.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

He's in he's in Abbott now because like it looks like Janine's gonna like mentor him.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Abbott Elementary is just a show that's easy viewing, funny.

SPEAKER_02:

You think this is the last season?

SPEAKER_00:

I don't know. Like, I don't know if it's been confirmed or not. Like Quenta basically said like she doesn't see them making like thousands of seasons because they're certainly building Barbara up to a retirement arc.

SPEAKER_02:

And I feel like without Barb, yeah, it's gonna be, you know, unless they have her, like maybe she comes in and su like if they want to keep on going and have her on the show, she subs, or I don't know. But they see because because they didn't they sort of they're my viewing of the show, which obviously I admit I don't watch this show every episode like you do. They're very focused on at the school and they don't do a lot of not at the school storylines. So it would be hard to continue to have her on the show if she's not full-time teaching in some capacity.

SPEAKER_00:

I do really like how they do the subtle like shout-outs, like Melissa was wearing the Philly Super Bowl champion shirt, like as a little wink. I want them to do another always sunny episode.

SPEAKER_02:

Okay, uh, you did watch a show on Netflix without me.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, that was very loud because I wonder if that'll fake a full.

SPEAKER_02:

Thank you, truck.

SPEAKER_00:

Um I did. It was recommended to me.

SPEAKER_02:

Wayward called a limited series.

SPEAKER_00:

It was recommended to me by my friend Grant. A limited series, I'm pretty sure that means we don't get a season two. Um I I felt like it I I mean I watched it like in two days. Yeah. So I did really enjoy it. It was one of those shows that I liked the mystery, I liked what was happening, but they fumbled the bag on the finale. So it's on Netflix.

SPEAKER_02:

Um before before you go forward, can I tell everybody why I didn't watch With You?

SPEAKER_00:

Sure.

SPEAKER_02:

It's the same reason why I didn't watch the Sirens show with you. Because they weren't mermaids. Because in the sirens show they made it seem like there was gonna be some sort of mythical mermaid situation, and that wasn't the case, and I clocked that within the first episode. So I was in here with you watching some of the first episode of this show. And they sure tried to make it seem like this was gonna be like some sort of X-Men style school. No, and then it wasn't, and that was I'm just out. Um if you if they had had like an X-Men school, I'd have been in.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, it takes place in 2003, and it's described the description is a small town cop suspects that the local school for troubled teens and its dangerously charismatic founder may not be all it seems. Um so I think Tony Collette Colletti, is that her name? Tony?

SPEAKER_02:

Who?

SPEAKER_00:

Tony Collette. The she's the one that plays like the founder of the school.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, I'm supposed to be somebody I know.

SPEAKER_00:

She's a really good actress. I should know her name. Why isn't it showing up? Gosh, what a mess. Tony Colette, yeah, she's been in really good podcasts. She's been in a lot of stuff, okay? So Mae Martin plays Alex Dempsey and they are a comedian. And I guess they uh had a big role in like writing the show because I kept one I guess I kept wondering the whole time if we were gonna get a flash forward to the future because I was like, why is this in 2003? And they basically explained that they chose to put it in 2003 because you know that was when they were at the age of like high school and they had a friend that actually had to go to one of these like schools, which is basically what does they say in Hocus Point? It's a prison for children.

SPEAKER_02:

It's just not an ex Charles Xavier school for special children, for exemplary children.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, it's schools like that still exist, but I think they probably started getting more you know more popularized. And the because 2003, when you think about it, seems more of like an innocent time period, like not a lot of I mean, I guess some bad stuff had already happened, but just in terms of like, you know, not as much access to social media.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, that that there you go, that no way the internet's still fairly new on and and less like Facebook.

SPEAKER_00:

But like I kept waiting for us to have like a flash forward to like pay off from 2003, so I had to look all that up when I would when I was done with it. But I thought the mystery was really good. Like there are schools like this, like Dr. Phil sends some of those trouble kids, like what they do, like this is not a stretch. So on the show, it revolves around these two friends, and one of the friends gets sent to the school, and the other goes to try to bust the friend out and ends up staying at the school because they call her mom, um, and she has her own trauma, like her sister had died, and so it's like a lot of you know, trouble teens. And they get the girl, like in the middle of the night, they come into her house, put a bag over her head, stick her in her van, and take her to the school in this place called Tal Pines. So again, we are a spoiler. Podcast. So now would be your time to click to the next chapter, 54321 before I get into it.

SPEAKER_02:

In the sane world, we call that child abuse.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes. Basically, yes. So it's revealed later that Taw Pines, like everybody in Taw Pines, and that's where Alex's um wife is from. Like Alex's wife graduated from the Taw Pines Academy. And his wife's being like all crazy and weird the whole time. And it's we find out that like everybody in that town, no one's actually had their own kids. So his wife is pregnant too, by the way. So that's gonna be like the first like baby in the town. Everybody comes from the school, and essentially, like the school director tries to make the kids like sever all ties with their parents, which I mean I do think the parents are crap for sending them to the school, but maybe they don't quite know how bad it is. I don't know. I would never do that to my kid, but whatever.

SPEAKER_02:

They don't find out how bad the school is because the kids sever all their ties, so they can't parent.

SPEAKER_00:

And they then they place those kids with other people that had been in that town, and it goes all the way back from like kind of like a cult-like activity of like the 70s. We find out that she took over from like the cult leader, and Jessica, her former student, that's Alex's wife, kind of does the same thing to her at the end. Where she cause she can like Alex is like, we gotta get out of here. Like, this is weird, some weird stuff. But then it turns out that Jessica, you know, she wants to kind of take over because she says she actually wants to make it a community, she wants to make it a better place.

SPEAKER_01:

Sure.

SPEAKER_00:

And you are left with the one the girl, um, one of the girls decides to stay at the school. So that sucks. The other one does get out. Um, but yeah, it kind of the ending felt like to me, like it felt like we had a like again, you saw me. I did I I like flew through this. I stayed up really night. It's just one of those things where the end comes and I felt like they didn't know how to really end the show in a satisfying way, so they just kind of rushed it. So it was like one of those shows that just fumbles the bag at the end. And if I was getting a season two, I wouldn't be upset.

SPEAKER_01:

Right.

SPEAKER_02:

But I think people just don't know, you don't know if you're gonna get answers to these questions that they left hanging out there.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, like I thought it was really fun. It's getting some hate online for reasons I'm not gonna go into. Google it. You know how people can be. I'm not gonna talk about that here. I think it's unfair hate for stupid, stupid reasons. But in terms of like the mystery, I enjoyed it. It was I thought that I would stretch it out a little longer. I didn't. She did not. She watched it in two days.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. That's and then that's what happens like when we don't when we don't have a shared binging show, is that I end up going downstairs and playing video games and you end up just walk blasting through like hunting wives.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, hunting wives. Because we are getting a season two for hunting wives, yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

And and we just l end up in this place. So we really need we need suggestions for a show that we can stream that's got like six, seven seasons out there. That would be good. Not a reality show. Don't come at me with reality show.

SPEAKER_00:

Not Breaking Bad or Dexter. I don't want to watch those.

SPEAKER_02:

We should watch the Sopranos, though.

SPEAKER_00:

I would watch those even though I've seen the finale. I know how it ends. Anyway, speaking, we have a finale coming up um this week. Peacemaker season two. Since we last talked to you guys, we've watched episodes six and seven. Um, their finale is planned for this week. I don't know if you're gonna call it the series finale or not, but at this time, James Gunn has no plans for season three. Is that correct?

SPEAKER_02:

Uh that that is what he has said, and I think you have uh you have a problem with this.

SPEAKER_00:

I do, because this show, I'm gonna say right now, if you guys are familiar with the podcast, we have our best thing going. If I knew I was getting a season three, I think this show would be my best thing going. That's right, not only a comic show, but the DC. Because I think at my core I am a Marble girly. I it's that good, you guys. Go watch Peacemaker.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, go watch Peacemaker.

SPEAKER_00:

Um Do you want to explain kind of what's happened with the past couple episodes?

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, we've talked about this season a little bit, so I I'm not gonna go into too much depth, but the Chris Peacemaker has decided that he's gonna go live in the other universe that he's discovered because there's just nothing left for him in the one he's at. Um, because you know, hardcore doesn't seem to be interested in a romance a romantic life with him. And the father of the guy that he killed in the Suicide Squad movie is coming after him hard just be for revenge. Rick Flag senior. Yeah, Rick Flag Flag Sr. And so that's kind of what happens at the end of episode six is that after they almost catch him, he gets away and he decides to go into the portal, close it, gives the thing that allows the portal to be open to his people and says, you know, hey, if you give this to the the agents, they will, you know, reward you. And then he goes to the the better world, so to speak, quote unquote, um, to live there because he killed the Chris. But Judo Master does make it in to follow up. Judomaster follows him in, and then episode seven is the 11th Street kids um uh they they do not accept Chris's answer to this, so they figure out a way to open the portal and they go in after him. And that's when we discover um that it's actually not the ideal world of um that that Chris thought it was. It's basically a white supremacist, um, you know, the Nazis world won World War II. Um I what is it, Earth X, I think is what the DC fans are all calling it. So it's something established from the comic books. Um I thought they did a really good job. I've seen some some criticism online of Peacemaker not recognizing this, not recognizing what what was going on until this episode. Really? Because I have something to say about that. I think that well, I do too. I think what I think what they did really well was show off his um what's the word? I can't even think of the proper word for it right now.

SPEAKER_01:

White privilege?

SPEAKER_02:

His privilege, yeah. The privilege was his privilege. Male privilege as well as not see any of the thing, any of these things. He was completely blind to them. And I think it was a really good because the the joke they make at the very end is like he saw the flag that had the the symbol on it, and he saw the book written by the bad guy hanging around. But the joke was then there's this giant mural of of of you know the not l the German, you know, former German chancellor, and and it's like this joke of like, how did you miss this? But I mean, I really do think it is if you live in that privileged world and you're not looking for that stuff, it is so easy to look past things that you just don't see. And I thought they did a really good job. Yeah, really good job about it.

SPEAKER_00:

So I don't even like exactly like Harcourt gets in there, she figures it out in like five minutes what's going on. Like all it took was five minutes. Um, we got to Adrian. I we were all wondering what was the other Adrian gonna be like exactly the same, only he hates Peacemaker in that universe because he's part of the, I don't know, the group organization that's trying to fight you know those powers for making it like a white promise type of world. We actually got so canonically in this DC universe, Spider-Man comic does exist.

SPEAKER_02:

Spider-Man comics exist.

SPEAKER_00:

Because they they did the Spider-Man meme. We Spider Man, they said it, we Spider-Man memed.

SPEAKER_01:

That was funny.

SPEAKER_00:

It was great. I'm a little worried because the end of the episode we have them escaping to get back to our regular world. I'm concerned that the Ron Adrian went through the portal. And I want my Adrian!

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Um let's like I know there was a lot that happened with his dad and then his brother in that world, which we'll get into. Like, obviously, they find out that's not the real Chris. The dad, I don't know, do you think the dad was sincere? Or do you think he was Oh, I think the dad was being sincere.

SPEAKER_02:

I still never know. I I no, I believe he was being sincere. I do think that you have to look because a lot of people I've seen people online be like, well, his dad was good in this universe. And and while I think what he was saying was sincere, you then have to look at people like the that the Earth ex Adrian, who was who was actively trying to resist this regime and going, Well, he said he would what it what he said was he was he didn't believe in all that stuff, but he was just trying to do the best he could in that world.

SPEAKER_01:

Kind of gets close to all.

SPEAKER_02:

He wasn't really, he was still playing within the rules of that world where he could have been joining with these other people to try and actually take it down. And so while I think relatively, relatively, relatively, yeah, he was good in that sense. I still think that you can't just immediately let it let him go any of any criticism.

SPEAKER_00:

We have Keith, Chris's brother, who basically he's mad, as which is I think anybody would be. But they start like kind of attacking Keith, and there's this scene where you get y'all, John Cena has solidified in me that he's a good actor. I think he's better than The Rock. I said what I said.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, no, no, no doubt, for in my mind, he's better than The Rock.

SPEAKER_00:

He sees them beating up Keith, he's bleeding, cause I cause I thought our theory was he's getting he might still have to, was he's gonna have to kill his brother. Again, like traumatic. But they they're all kind of taking care of it for him, and Chris is like in the back, and you just hear him go like stop or like no, like, and he just cries out. And when I tell you, like, I tear it up watching that scene because it just like just all the trauma he's been through, and then he's watching this happen, and I feel like he feels so lost. He's a good actor. Like, I think we've seen John Cena play that funny role when he's gotten into acting. Like, this is showing off his like I would have never guessed it, like a show, like it was showing off his acting chops, but I think he's earned he has earned some applause for me because I liked about it too is like you like you keep comparing to The Rock, and I agree.

SPEAKER_02:

Like, he's I feel like it's the easiest comparison. I have never seen The Rock do like show any rock has always been cool guy in everything he's ever everything I've ever seen him in, he's just trying to play cool guy, no emotion. And John Cena is doing the absolute opposite of that, showing emotion, being a man that cries, being a man that like gets upset about things and is confused and isn't confident. Um, and I think he's just doing a phenomenal job.

SPEAKER_00:

Absolutely. So we have the finale coming up. I have no idea if we're gonna get a solidifying, like a solidifying what am I trying to say? Satisfying conclusion because if they because James kind of said, while we might there's no plans for a season three, we might see some of these characters going forward. I really don't want anyone to die. I'm kind of worried, I'm stressed about it, because now knowing that we're not getting a season three, I don't know what's what's gonna happen. The last couple episodes have been so intense, kind of an emotional like gut punch. So I guess I guess we'll see.

SPEAKER_02:

It's in and I'll be interested to see what happens in this one too, because really, like ultimately, the the the plot to get to the plot, which is you know the last thing that we actually watch this show for. Um, but to get to the plot of the really the plot of the short story this season is wrapped. You know, like Chris has been apprehended by you know the people in his world, he's in jail, and you know, we know the rest of the team made it back, or at least we think the rest of the team made it back.

SPEAKER_00:

I'm pretty sure Keith is gonna find a way to get in.

SPEAKER_02:

Keith is alive, so we know that he's gonna try and make it back in. And I think and then and we know from the preview that they're going to be exploring the other multiverses, so that's gonna give them the opportunity to do that. So I really don't know like what they're what what part they're gonna play, what cr part Chris is gonna play in this last episode um in you know what's gonna happen. So I'm excited.

SPEAKER_00:

It feels like they have a lot to talk to do in one, so I'm a little worried, but I'm excited. All right, moving right along, Daniel's favorite reality show back, and probably mine too, Special Forces season four is back. You don't have to watch the previous seasons of special forces to get into it. Um but you should. But you should, but this is high key recommend it. So we have watched the first two episodes right out the gate. Johnny Manzel is taking center stage. As we he, you know though, he like I guess I always assume like people are gonna be in shape that are former athletes, and he's like, Yeah, I pretty much just spent my time at the golf course, not the gym. Like he struggled. I thought he might like go out in that first episode because he was in pain.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, he was definitely in pain. I I think I think he was in more pain because they kept putting him in a vehicle with Cody.

SPEAKER_00:

But yeah, so I am watching Sister Wives. I know how horrible Cody Brown is. I told you how annoying he was gonna be, and you were like, oh my gosh, get this guy off my screen. It does look like they're gonna focus on Cody a little bit in the episode coming up.

SPEAKER_02:

I hope that means I hope that means he he dips.

SPEAKER_00:

There's some people that make good TV, and then there's people like him that I'm like, just get off my screen. Go away.

SPEAKER_02:

I think episode one, we had the earliest elimination.

SPEAKER_00:

She didn't even make it to base camp.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, uh I've ever seen in any of what is this season four now?

SPEAKER_00:

She's like a Van Der Plump rules person. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, like she didn't even make it to Basecamp. She never even saw Basecamp.

SPEAKER_00:

What's the first time like the what are the what do I call them?

SPEAKER_02:

The DSs.

SPEAKER_00:

The DSs like have you know mentioned the fact that these celebrities do get paid. He's like, oh, he's like, anybody else just want to get their paycheck, got their paycheck, now you can just dip. Like it's the first time they reference that you do get paid to go on their show. Like you are getting paid to be there. I don't know if you get paid the longer you stay. I don't know how that works.

SPEAKER_02:

Or it was I bet with how short this is, you probably just get a straight like that's what I'm thinking.

SPEAKER_00:

It's more of like a respect thing. Um let's see here. I feel like we haven't seen a ton from Sean Johnson and her husband. I think it's very interesting that we have the family members, but they handle their family connection well, even though it looked like we had the last episode where they had to fight, which I think would honestly be the worst thing for me. Like of all the crazy crap they do, I would hate to have to fight somebody. It would one, I'd be afraid I'd hurt somebody. One, I just I've never been in a I'm not a physical like person like that. I've never been in like a punching fist fight. So I don't even know what I'd do. I'm very scrappy, but like I think like I if I would feel like the girl that like thought she broke Sean's nose started crying, like I would be like distraught, thinking like I hurt somebody. Right. Um But you could see like her husband on the side, like he looked physically sick, like he was gonna throw up watching his wife fight, but he was still supported her. Whereas the opposite side, we have the mother and daughter, Teresa and her daughter Shea. She's from um, I think like a real housewife show. We know her from Dancing with the Stars. I know she went to jail. She like they were so codependent, but not in the way that you would think. Like the like basically the daughter is mothering the mother. So she's getting ready to go out and fight, and her mom's like, I can't watch her fight. So Teresa just quits. And I'm like, that is the most selfish thing you could have done. If you get in your head right before that, but then they I thought it was really interesting how she even like agreed with Billy in one of the ES's, and he's like, Do you feel relief that your mom's gone? So I kind of want to, I don't know anything about this girl, but I want to see her go a little further.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, I'm rooting for I'm pulling for her. I'm hoping that she does well because I feel like she could be a terrible person. I don't know. I don't know, but I feel like she she needs a confidence boost, and I think that like this show could do that for her. Um, and certainly at a minimum, it keeps her away from that mother for a couple more days. Because wow, like that was just such a narcissist thing to do. It was instead of standing there and watching it and supporting her to make a show out of it and leave right before she has to go do the fight and then completely just psych her out for the fight that she has to do.

SPEAKER_00:

What did he say? Well, he caused it dynasty, like the show, but it's like British, she looks like she's there goes dynasty. Oh, we had our first, I feel like, person that got like psych. Like the with I'm sure they had a psychologist on set, but it was the first time we had, because there was a girl that like passed out, one of the America's top next top model contestants.

SPEAKER_02:

They were doing the thing where you're in a vehicle and they dip you under the water and you have to stay in for a certain amount of time and then you have to leave. And the entire time they were lifting them down, and by the way, they they lifted them off like a dam. So it was like a long, you had to like kind of sit there in your emotions for probably a couple minutes before it actually got down to the water level. And she was just like psyching herself out completely to the point where she was able to challenge she got she got out of her seat, she let her teammate know to get out of their seat. She went out the correct door and came up. When she came up and her head hit the bottle top of the water, she passed out.

SPEAKER_00:

And I've never seen the DSs yell at each other before, but he was like, Rudy, Rudy, get her, get her, get her, and I'm gonna be able to identify that as a problem.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Um, but she asked to speak to the psychologist before the fighting episode, and that was the first time we'd ever seen, like, I'm sure they've always been on set the whole time. But then, like, it was determined like that she just mentally that's the first time I've seen them cut somebody for mentally not being able to do it, not physically.

SPEAKER_01:

Right.

SPEAKER_00:

And I thought that was telling because in this profession, you do have to be mentally there to handle what these people go through.

SPEAKER_02:

And it's not just that you're a danger to yourself, even though you are, you're also a danger to the people around you if you because she proved she could do it physically, she did, and that was I thought that was really I don't know.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, and can we talk about their location? They're in Morocco.

SPEAKER_02:

We've been to Morocco, they're in Morocco, been through those mountains they drove through. I was about to say they haven't said where they are, but there's only one mountain range in Morocco, and it's the Atlas Mountains, and we drove straight through it when we went to Marrakesh and Fez. Is that where I almost threw up on bus? And used the whole bathroom, the bathroom that was a hole, the toilet that was just a little hole in the we, we, you didn't use the hole.

SPEAKER_00:

I did. You didn't go in there.

SPEAKER_02:

Okay, why didn't I have to use a bathroom?

SPEAKER_00:

Only the bad. And guys, when I say it, I'm not using it like a metaphor, like oh it was a hole. No, y'all, I went into a room, I had to hike up my my jeans, like a concrete floor. A concrete floor with a literal hole in the middle of it, and I had to pay like the is it dirum? Yeah, I had to pay to use the hole. But I can I can at least say that I've lucky me.

SPEAKER_02:

You can say you pay to use the hole in Morocco.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, so I can't imagine where they like blindfold them being on the curvy roads considering I've been on a tour bus and I almost dry heaved and threw up several times. Um, yeah. So go watch Special Forces. Speaking of reality shows, Dancing with Stars, we've since gotten through episodes two and three. I never thought I would see a TikTok theme, but we had TikTok night for episode three.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

It was fun, but I also seen a lot of memes that were like, they were acting like TikTok has like fed the hungry. They were talking about like how it's changed their lives. Well, you and I were correct on who we thought was gonna get eliminated for the first we had the double elimination. It was unfortunate, I think Barron, the NBA guy, could have gone much further, but this is where it comes down to the fan votes. And then Corey Feldman. Um, they were the first eliminations, and then the surprise elimination was um on TikTok night, Lauren from Fifth Harmony. But I saw her scores, they she kind of like fumbled a little bit on that dance. They didn't, I think they underscored her a little bit, but I agree. That's a whole other thing. But that just shows that if you are low on the leaderboard and you're not getting that fan vote, you will go home. And I am one of the people. Sorry, I I won't vote for him at the end, but I I like seeing I think that Andy has actually improved dancing, and I like seeing his journey with Emma. Do I think he should take a finalist spot from somebody? No. I think it's probably gonna be his time to go this week, or the, you know, with the talent we have.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, get like you said.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, I want Alaria, get her off there, and then Andy can go next. But you said you won't voting for her.

SPEAKER_02:

You said you wanted Andy to get to Disney week, which is what's coming up. Exactly. Hey, can I ask you a question? Yes. Um, Robert Irwin. Oh what year was he born?

SPEAKER_00:

Like 2003.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, that's correct.

SPEAKER_00:

I've done such a good job not like being cougary with him. And then Whitney's like, we're gonna choreograph, and it wasn't their best dance. He did look a little stiff in it, but it didn't matter. She like removes a shirt, and I'm like, the body is T, and I'm just like, he could be my son. No, I would have been a young mom if I had had him. But I mean, yeah, but one of my friends, like who watched, she didn't even watch anything with stars, but I like posted a video. I was like, I've watched this way too many times, it's embarrassing. She's like, Yeah, because of the thing you posted, I Googled his age and was like so freaked out to see how young he was. Um, I do think that we now that we know that he can move a little bit. I don't think he's not the best dancer. I still think Whitney, who I predicted could win, um, Whitney and Mark, I think they're the like they've had the best dances. I think she is the best dancer. Currently, I think you're right. Like, Robert's gonna win. I don't see how he doesn't win.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, especially I think and and the thing that blew my mind this week that I didn't even con I didn't even contemplate it when I picked him was that he has the most TikTok followers of everybody on the show. And listen, somebody on uh at least one person on the show is billed as a TikToker.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, Alex Earl.

SPEAKER_02:

And he has more TikTok followers than her by like a wide margin.

SPEAKER_00:

And so he can dance well, he's partnered with Whitney. I think he'll take because it was he was a little stiff in those moves. Right. I was just too distracted by how he looked. I had to go back and rewatch. I I think he'll take criticism well. I actually think he like Bendy, his sister won. Um I actually think he might be a little bit better than her. I don't know. It's really hard to compare men and women's celebrities because I think women, I think it's harder for the women celebrities because they have to do more than the men. I'm sorry. No, I don't disagree.

SPEAKER_02:

No, I don't disagree with you. Like the the if you are trying to ballroom dance um in the traditional fashion, like the women are doing more than the men. And and the one the the tough thing for the men is the strength part. Yeah. Like that's something that you that some men, uh clearly not Robert Irwin, but some men who have a problem with like the lifting and doing all of that kind of stuff. But yes, in general, like the technical aspects of the moving around, the women have it harder.

SPEAKER_00:

Rumba is harder for the men because that's where they really have to lead. Yeah. I know that's a dance they always say that's difficult.

SPEAKER_02:

I okay, so I mean to we're both feeling very good about our picks, though, right? Like I picked Robert to win. You picked Whitney.

SPEAKER_00:

I think they're gonna be in the finals. Yeah. For sure. I think I think the only way Robert loses is if he starts getting bad scores.

SPEAKER_02:

I agree. And I at this moment, I've not been given any reason to think that he's gonna fall off. I think he's only going to get better.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes. Yes. And he does have a good pro. I think Whitney's finally gonna get her. She's always been like the queen of coming in second. I think she's finally gonna get her Amira ball. It's very confusing because we have Whitney the pro, then we have Whitney the celebrity.

SPEAKER_01:

Right.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay, so Reddit is always like Nancy with the Stars Reddit. I feel like I argue with more people in there than I do any other of my other Reddits. We were all like, why is Alaria still who was voting for this woman? By the way, could you tell that Alec Baldwin was told, like, hey, you looked miserable. Like he was smiling this week.

SPEAKER_02:

Somebody said, Hey man, you're an actor. Could you like put a smile on?

SPEAKER_00:

Try not to look miserable, please. So he like the camera was and he was smiling. I'm like, well, that's intentional. Um, who do we think is gonna I hate when they do eliminations on Disney week. Who do we think is going home tonight? Because they yes, the episode would air at the time of this.

SPEAKER_02:

You know, I know like they don't tell us who if they they say the bottom three isn't not isn't necessarily in order. Yeah. I do feel like it's gotta be Andy or Hilaria. I I don't I know there's a lot of people voting for Andy, but he's not gonna get the scores. She's gonna have to really have a heavy keeping Hilaria in is her dancing ability, and I don't know that it's fair that she goes because I think she's a good dancer. I think it might be unfair she's on the show to begin with. Yeah, it's but that's a whole other issue. We're there, we're past that at this point.

SPEAKER_00:

It's one thing to have dance experience, it's another thing to actually have beaten a fellow ballroom dancer in a competition.

SPEAKER_02:

But I don't I don't believe that she's gonna have the vote. So I think it's gonna be her or Andy tonight.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I'm in agreement with you. I am a little worried for Elaine, though. I'm a little worried.

SPEAKER_02:

Who's Elaine?

SPEAKER_00:

The parent trap, the dances the allen. Because she's been like one of my favorite ones to watch.

SPEAKER_02:

If I I I will be very disappointed if she goes because I think she uh I would if I had to pick who I thought was gonna win and after two weeks who I thought could be a dark horse to win, yeah. Just from a dancing perspective, and she is great, but I but I agree with you. I'm not entirely sure the millennial the millennial gals are gonna be able to hold it, Danny. To hold the line for her.

SPEAKER_00:

I think that um Dylan, who's with Danny, I think he's gonna be the next, like Danny Amadella. Like, I think that you're always like, who's my like a lot of people? Well, the Efron kid? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Uh unfortunately, I think you're right. Every time you say Dylan, I'm like, who is this?

SPEAKER_00:

Because he's Dylan Efron.

SPEAKER_02:

What's it? What do they bill him as? Maybe like Belly Conklin. What do they say he is?

SPEAKER_00:

Dylan and Zach.

SPEAKER_02:

What do they say he is? Like, what is what is the what because he's Zach Efron's brother.

SPEAKER_00:

Reality TV star from reality show.

SPEAKER_02:

Okay. So he's been on Traitors once. Absolutely terrible reality show. You know what? Good people watch all kinds of stuff, but that but Traitors is a terrible reality show.

SPEAKER_01:

Um I just wanna set up That's all I needed to see.

SPEAKER_02:

I just completely forget who this guy is, but I do agree with you. For some reason, uh he's gonna stick around longer than he probably deserves.

SPEAKER_00:

A lot of boomer women watch the show. He's hot. Younger people think he's hot. He can move well. I think he's a better dancer than Danny.

SPEAKER_02:

You think he's gonna soak votes from Robert, though, in the in the hotness factor?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. I think not I think people will vote for both of them.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay.

SPEAKER_00:

I I just I don't I think he I don't know. We'll see. Um I I'm very excited for Disney and I though. I know we're getting a wicked night later. I'm looking forward to that. I think this season, Alona, who got second last year, was like, she um tagged Dwight and Steven in an Instagram post. She's like, wow, guys, she's like, us athletes would have sucked if we were on this season because everybody is really, really good. So it's definitely, I feel like Andy is much like Lauren, who left last week. I think she like she had the ability, she could have been a finalist. She didn't have the votes.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, no, I agree. Like in general, everybody's really good. There's not like that standout top of the class person, but everybody is better than than average.

SPEAKER_00:

What's funny to me is like all the new fans that have come to this show. Like, I have been watching this show since literally I was in college and I came home from a break with my parents. Like, this is not like Lauren being a big one.

SPEAKER_02:

You've been watching this show since before Robert Irwin was was born, or just just shortly after.

SPEAKER_00:

He was born, he was a baby. He was a pretty walker born in 2006.

SPEAKER_02:

Okay, yeah, probably could walk.

SPEAKER_00:

Daniel. Anyway, I have we've been around where like contestants, like Bristol Palin wasn't a very good dancer, and she made it to the finals. Cloris Leachman, may she rest in peace. Like, she, a lot of people liked Cloris, but she was not a great dancer. She lasted Sabrina Bryan at a shocking elimination. This is part of the show. It always has been. Yes, it goes to dancing ability, but it also comes to likability, getting those fan votes. So I'm just like, I feel like that like first time. Like there were people that were like just stunned about Lauren, and I'm like, first, first time you gotta actually like vote for the people that you want to keep around.

SPEAKER_02:

Like, if you all you do is sit there and put all your votes towards that one person, the chaos is going to ensue when it comes to figuring out who's there. And I do think I told you this um the other night when we were talking about it, that I think I think the problem right now is like there's three or four people getting soaking up all the votes, and what that's causing is chaos at the bottom that lets people like the girl that went last week go just because so many people are getting so many other some of the top three, four people are getting all those votes.

SPEAKER_00:

I feel like the judging could be a little like in the or the scoring, excuse me, not the judging. I think they start they started them off too nice again.

SPEAKER_02:

I'm gonna tell you right now, in the Lynn Goodman era.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, he would have been thrown out threes.

SPEAKER_02:

What, two?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. There wouldn't be eights getting blind thrown around who won, who won the show, but was getting forced this first couple weeks.

SPEAKER_02:

Like, I'm sorry, I eights shouldn't be being given out in week two or three. Like, I just refused to be able to.

SPEAKER_00:

I'm sure Lynn Goodman would have been down for the TikTok night with some of the songs they had. I miss Lynn. He was the best judge. He was the best. Do you agree?

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, I agree. I always looked forward to hearing Lynn. I know Derek's kind of filling that role, and he does well, and he brings his own like panache to it, including the whatever is going on with his brooch brooches that he that they just seem to be getting bigger every single week.

SPEAKER_00:

Um every time he wears one, you know what it reminds me of? You know the episode of Friends where Ross has to give the speech? Yeah. And then Joey and Chandler spill the stuff on Phoebe. She puts like the giant Christmas bell. And like what I'm being Political.

SPEAKER_02:

Actually, that's not the one. I thought you were gonna say it was the the the um jacket that Ross got his mom for Christmas that one year.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh that's look at all these authentic war metals. Now I'll talk about TV or something. Oh, there's a reference for everything. Well on that note, do you have anything else to say?

SPEAKER_02:

Uh no, I do not.

SPEAKER_00:

All right, I'm gonna go listen in more Taylor Clips.

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