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We Watch TV Episode 113 – Wed-Nes-Day

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 In this episode of We Watch TV, Hope and Daniel chat all about the first four episodes of Netflix’s Wednesday season 2. They also predict what could happen when the back half of the season releases in September. The hosts also react to the Happy Gilmore sequel before giving their thoughts on Marvel’s latest installment, The Fantastic Four: First Steps. Conversations continue with the wild ride that was The Hunting Wives. Hope and Daniel wrap things up with the latest from The Summer I Turned Pretty, Star Trek Strange New Worlds, Bachelor in Paradise and Perfect Match. The hosts close the show with some exciting announcements, including season 4 of Special Forces!

(00:00:00) Intro
(00:08:07) Wednesday Season 2 Part 1
(00:35:14) Happy Gilmore 2
(00:39:26) Fantastic 4
(00:59:23) The Hunting Wives
(01:12:04) The Summer I Turned Pretty and Star Trek Strange New Worlds
(01:14:13) Bachelor in Paradise and Perfect Match
(01:15:39) News

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SPEAKER_02:

So we're calling this episode Wednesday because neither of us can actually spell properly. Is that my understanding here?

SPEAKER_00:

Well, I am a good speller, but the word Wednesday always tripped me up. Wednesday and February. So I say like February and Wednesday. Okay.

SPEAKER_02:

Hey everybody and welcome to We Watch TV. It is the podcast about the TV that we watch. I am Daniel. She is Hope. This is episode 113. We are here. It is so close to fall. We can almost taste it even though it's only actually August.

SPEAKER_00:

What was the heat index today? It was too hot. I don't know. It was too hot. It is back like feeling like in the high 90s and it stinks. But I consider really, as soon as those Mickey pumpkins go up at Disney, which they're going up at the end of this week, I'm like, it's fair game. It's true. We

SPEAKER_02:

should derive all of our seasonal timing by what

SPEAKER_00:

Disney does. Yes, of course. Because Halloween is not just a day. It is a season. Spooky season. It's a whole thing. And if I can, which again, I love Christmas, but if I have to look at Christmas decorations starting in, you know, like sometimes even September, I think it's totally fair that I can as a spooky season gal, look at my Halloween decorations as soon as the 4th of July is over. It's only fair. It's science at this point.

SPEAKER_02:

When are our decorations going out for spooky season?

SPEAKER_00:

My hope is to get them up, at least start pulling stuff out next weekend. So that's about the time we did it last year.

SPEAKER_02:

Does the goose have... A Halloween costume?

SPEAKER_00:

Not yet. The goose does have a WVU outfit that your mom bought for it at the farmer's market. But my goal is to get our goose. We got a goose, you guys. Not a real one. It's not a

SPEAKER_02:

real goose. It's an incredibly heavy concrete cast goose.

SPEAKER_00:

That hailed from Myrtle Beach in the 80s. That was on my grandmother's porch for, you know... years 30 plus years and now is on our porch but they couldn't find when they were getting the goose to us only one outfit was recovered so that's going to be like my new personality is shopping for goose clothing

SPEAKER_02:

all the thing about the goose that's bothering me right now is that i have my office in the basement and i have a window i can just see its head poking up over the window.

SPEAKER_00:

Could you see our skeleton when we put it

SPEAKER_02:

out? No, he's in that corner too far.

SPEAKER_00:

You're probably going to be seeing the goose even more then because when we get the skeleton out, we're going to scoot the goose over because we're going to put the skeleton in the camping chair and then we're going to scoot the goose over and they're going to be like Halloween pals.

SPEAKER_01:

Great.

SPEAKER_00:

And can you please, everybody, send in a fan mail. I'm putting out the call now. I think that we need, we have like the five foot skeleton. I think we need the 12 foot skeleton to go right in our living room. What does he say in a Christmas story? This one's going in our living room front window. It's going right in our front yard. You know, those are cool. We've seen them in some of the houses that we run by. They're awesome. I

SPEAKER_02:

disagree entirely. How do I know?

SPEAKER_00:

It took me years, years to convince you to finally get me a blow up snowman. I'm going to make this happen. I am. We just need all the Halloween decor we can get. But this is honestly, while I love a good summerween, this is how the seasons actually should be. I truly

SPEAKER_02:

detest that term,

SPEAKER_00:

summerween. It's really big in book talk. It's been a thing for a while, but it's gotten really big in book talk this year. And you're just... You're such a buzzkill. Anyway, can I go on about the seasons? should be spraying and the Mountaineers totally got screwed this year in March. Man, that's just stuff to put out there. And then I think summer should start after Memorial Day. The way the actual seasons are on the calendar, like no one cares about that. And I do think there are some people that are really persnickety about it. I've noticed like really pro-summer people are totally down to be like, yeah, summer after Memorial Day. But if I'm drinking my PSL on, you know, September 3rd or whatever, they're like, no, no, no. It's still summer until XYZ. You can't have it both ways. That should be, that is, I feel like the majority of people, that's how we do the seasons, and that's how it should be. Do you agree? I mean, regardless if you agree or not, we're getting our Halloween decorations up like next weekend, so.

SPEAKER_02:

I'm honestly over all of these Eurocentric holidays. At this point, I'm going to just go back to the pagan roots and celebrate the solstice two times a year, summer and winter.

SPEAKER_00:

No, we're going to get a 12-foot skeleton. What decorations do you like the best?

SPEAKER_02:

You know, I was originally against the skeleton, but when you allowed me to put a Santa Claus hat on it and keep it out for Christmas, I'm now back on board with the skeleton. I was actually advocating for trying to find some way to keep the skeleton out all year round with different clothing. I don't think we would keep the 12-foot one out the whole time. No, I'm not on board with the 12-foot skeleton. Oh, yes you are. No.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes you are. No. Yes you are. Yes you are. Yes you are. Yes you are. Yes you are. The skeleton is cute. Everyone gets a kick out of it. Except for when we brought it into the house and Marvin was like, get it out of my house.

SPEAKER_02:

No, I think this year I have an old flannel. and some old boots I might put on it after Halloween's over. I'll

SPEAKER_00:

allow it after Halloween's over, but I've got my spider and my spooky stuff that I put on.

SPEAKER_02:

Right, yeah, but when it's Christmas time, he gets the hat and maybe a flannel and some boots.

SPEAKER_00:

See, I thought you were going to pick Halloween as your favorite decorations because there's less work for you to do, whereas Christmas I'm having you drag up all the boxes, the tree, and doing the lights on the outside of the

SPEAKER_02:

house. Yeah, there's definitely less work.

SPEAKER_00:

That being said, I would love to put some really cute orange lights for Halloween. Do you think that would be just too over- We got the goose. We got the skeleton. Possibly the 12-foot skeleton. Let's throw some more lights and bats out there.

SPEAKER_02:

No. I'm not doing that. You know what? What? I will do it if you let me buy the fancy, nice LED lights and they just stay up all year round. And you can't see them when they're not on. And then you can just, instead of having Christmas lights, you just change on the app over to Christmas lights.

SPEAKER_00:

Like that one house that's had their American lights on. Not

SPEAKER_02:

like that. Not like that. Otherwise it's November. Not like that. This would look, you wouldn't even be able to

SPEAKER_00:

see them. Bro's been celebrating the 4th of July since November of last year. I

SPEAKER_02:

think he's just got his default on to where if it's not a holiday where that has like a specific theme, it's just American flag.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay. So I could do like pink and like for Easter and stuff.

SPEAKER_02:

Pink for Easter? Yellow's the Easter color.

SPEAKER_00:

It's like pastels is the Easter color.

SPEAKER_02:

Yellow is the Easter color.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, but the yellow lights, would it look good? I want like a pastel. I

SPEAKER_02:

feel like we would... We've never decorated for Easter. Can I get a giant Easter bunny? No, no, no. If I did this, I would allow you to celebrate with lights for holidays that traditionally get light celebration. Halloween and Christmas. And maybe 4th of July. The rest of the time, they'd just be off. What is Arbor Day?

SPEAKER_00:

It's like about trees. Is that the tree one? Let's

SPEAKER_02:

waste a bunch of electricity on Arbor Day to celebrate.

SPEAKER_00:

We could do it for the start of college football, and I could do WVU colors. There

SPEAKER_02:

you go. So if you let me do that, then you can have Halloween life.

SPEAKER_00:

And I can have my 12-foot skeleton.

SPEAKER_02:

You would be in charge of the app. I would put them up one time, and then I would never touch them again.

SPEAKER_00:

You know, it's really fitting that we're talking about Halloween and spooky season, because I think this is, is this episode 113?

SPEAKER_02:

It is, absolutely,

SPEAKER_00:

yes. Spooky, spooky. Well, speaking of spooky, we did a little TV watching over the past week. Wednesday, Wednesday, not the day, the person and the show. Netflix's Wednesday season two, part one, collective eye roll, dropped last week on, what day did it drop on, Daniel?

SPEAKER_02:

Wednesday.

SPEAKER_00:

Wednesday. I'm a little annoyed. That was only four episodes, but the marketing around it's been good. It wasn't called the Wednesday meal at Wendy's. It's called the meal of misfortune. I've had it twice. It comes with my normal Wendy's order anyway, chicken nuggets and fries, but then you get two dips of dread, and there's four of them. I've gotten the meal twice now, and I've gotten the same two every time, which is annoying, but I like the two that I got. Not so much the purple one, but I like the darker ketchup one. I think they

SPEAKER_02:

all look gross.

SPEAKER_00:

You said I haven't had the spiciest. You haven't had

SPEAKER_02:

the spiciest.

SPEAKER_00:

But you were never a child that was whimsical and got the purple ketchup when that was a thing in the 90s. No, because that was gross. You've just always been so set in your ways.

SPEAKER_02:

You

SPEAKER_00:

were like born an 80-year-old.

SPEAKER_02:

Ketchup shouldn't be anything but red.

SPEAKER_00:

You were like born an old man, like born a senior citizen at birth.

SPEAKER_02:

Fine.

SPEAKER_00:

Like, you're like, get off my lawn. And then it came with a Frosty that's called the Raven's Blood Frosty with, like, this dark cherry sauce. And I know that you're real weird. Again, another thing you're setting your way is about Frostys. And normally I'm with you. Like, just the classic Frosty, which is now we have to say chocolate. You refuse to even say chocolate flavored because to you a Frosty is chocolate.

SPEAKER_02:

No, when I order, I have to say a chocolate Frosty because they screwed it up. And I can't just order a Frosty because if I say I'd like a medium Frosty and they come back at me and go, what flavor? And if I order a medium chocolate or if I order a medium Frosty, it should be implied that I want a chocolate Frosty because that's only Frosty. Everything else isn't a Frosty.

SPEAKER_00:

But it's the wildest thing to me, considering you would always choose vanilla in any other life because you like the most boring, bland flavor. And you're always like vanilla, vanilla, vanilla. Vanilla is a

SPEAKER_02:

flavor. But

SPEAKER_00:

I remember when Wendy's launched their vanilla Frosty, I was like, oh, Daniel's going to really like this. And you were like, what is this?

SPEAKER_02:

It's not. Don't call it Frosty. Because that's not what it is. A Frosty is a very specific item.

SPEAKER_00:

The Raven's Blood Frosty is like, that's what makes this meal legit. And you can get that by itself. And it was good. I love a good theme. I'm a sucker for a good theme. These companies see me coming a mile away.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, they really do.

SPEAKER_00:

But it was really good. And I really feel like you would like it, but you're so stubborn. I do agree with you a little bit that Wendy's has never been the same since, you know, I think we talked about this on the podcast before, since yellow Wendy's went away.

SPEAKER_02:

yeah we had an episode about that

SPEAKER_00:

we did yeah it just it hasn't been the same it's not been the same but back to the show yeah

SPEAKER_02:

the show was also good real quick before we get too deep into the show if you are this is one of the rare shows on this podcast that we've actually got like a hundred percent coverage of every season wow so if you are interested we did talk about season one of Wednesday all the way back on February 28th 2023 in episode six pilgrims or something

SPEAKER_00:

and I believe that the show had dropped in 2022 and we just for some reason i think we were super busy we had a lot going on and so we waited and we it was something that we wanted to watch and we waited a little bit and we had just started the podcast so that's when we did that episode yep so it's been then a good three years that fans have been waiting for yeah pretty well for four episodes netflix has got to cut it they got to cut it out with this crap They've got to stop it. I understand from a financial aspect, they're like, you know, if we keep splitting the seasons, it's going to make sure that people extend their subscriptions or whatever. That's got to be the mindset behind it. But in this case with Wednesday, I think it's going to hurt them a little bit. Because I think if we watched– when we get those back half of the four episodes, unless they are real stinkers, I feel like the whole season is going to flow better. Because my– I'll just get into it right now. First off, again– This is the point in time, if you are new here, to go ahead, skip to that next chapter marker if you don't want to be spoiled because we are a spoiler podcast.

SPEAKER_02:

If you're new here, by the way, I'm just going to put this out there. If you're new here, how? How did you find us? I want to know. I'm interested. There's a link in the description called send us a fan mail. Let me know. If you're new here, how in the world did you find yourself here?

SPEAKER_00:

And also tell us that we need a 12-foot skeleton.

SPEAKER_02:

Don't do that.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes, please. Anyway, here we go. Your final warning. Let's take it off. So we got those first...

SPEAKER_02:

Wednesday dies. No,

SPEAKER_00:

she doesn't. We get the first four episodes. And my biggest complaints of this season, I'll get the complaints before the good, is that... It's just for waiting almost three years for a show and then it only gives four episodes and then it didn't even feel like Wednesday was like this she's still the centric character but she was definitely sharing a lot of screen time and there were some side plots that I'm sure will come together in the end and I don't think those side plots like the siren girl and her mother I think that there's something going on with them and the new headmaster played by Steve Buscemi like I don't think he's the big bad but I don't think he's a good character either I think there's something up with him the way he was hard on her and like kind of knows her past so I think that's gonna be in the overarching story which again would make more sense and if we got the whole eight episodes set at once. But, like, anytime we'd switch over to her plot, I felt like it was distracting from some of it. And then we had some other just, like, storylines. Like, ultimately, I think it's episode three where they go camping, right? Yeah. And they had this whole, like, what is it? Kind of capture the flag, but they called it something different game. And, obviously, it ended up making sense because it had the zombie, like... was out or whatever that Pugsley captured. So it did come together, but it just felt like that whole episode was like, I almost felt like I was getting a filler episode for a large chunk of it. And I'm sorry, doing filler episodes when you're only giving me four episodes is insane.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, the problem they have is like, again, there's a lot of competing storylines and only one of those storylines has Wednesday in it. Like the Pugsley story, Pugsley is now at the school, never more. And he has discovered... a zombie

SPEAKER_00:

and he's clearly socially awkward they're cleaning that out a lot

SPEAKER_02:

nursing this zombie back to health whatever that means for a zombie and it's like

SPEAKER_00:

well I've noticed every time it eats brains it like grows a little bit more

SPEAKER_02:

but like so like you said that story is probably going to come back and make sense at the end of the season but right now every time it's on screen I'm just like what are we doing with this zombie and it seems like multiple times including like the whole thing with the capture the flag and the boy scouts that came in all of that was to serve of the storyline of getting the zombie caught so it could end up at willow hill and so that it could do what it did at willow hill and it's just like none of it's making any sense to me The fourth episode is finally the episode that really felt like season one. And then they roll credits on us for a month.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, I did like that scene. I don't know. It's because they played music twice. The new music teacher, the zombie, which is playing the cranberries in your head. And I thought that was one of my favorite scenes. like musical moments because it had the zombie running around and they were playing that. Um, so I liked that part as well. And I do like, I, I, I like the Adams family. So I don't mind that there's a focus on Morticia because obviously we're going to meet Ophelia soon. Um, her mother showed up. So I understand that, you know, I'm fine. I've always liked the Adams family. So I'm fine with some of those extra characters coming in, but just for a four episode slate, it felt like it took until that fourth episode to really get established and like you know what's going on what's going down the Wednesday story well that

SPEAKER_02:

thing is for me is everything going on with Morticia and her sister and her mom is Wednesday is a part of that story. But with Pugsley in particular and with the siren story in particular, Wednesday seems to just be completely aside in those storylines. And it's not obvious at any way how they're going to bring all that back together. And that's what I think makes both of those pieces when you break off like drag is because when it comes to Morticia, we know that what we know kind of what's going on there and what Wednesday and her are having conflict. And that's interesting. But like, It's like Pugsley showed up at Nevermore and has just been doing his own thing, and nobody has been caring in the world about him.

SPEAKER_00:

Did Pugsley talk a lot in the Christina Ricci? I don't remember him ever speaking before this. Maybe he did, but I don't remember. I

SPEAKER_02:

mean, I don't remember a character named Pugsley in The Addams Family, be it the old movies or last season, ever speaking. Yeah. I've not seen the 60s TV shows, so I can't speak to that.

SPEAKER_00:

Now, some criticism that they have nothing to do with... the storyline, just in terms of the pacing of the show, is puberty hits. I didn't even recognize Eugene.

SPEAKER_02:

No.

SPEAKER_00:

Because we're only to believe, like, you know, a summer vacation has passed, and this went from being a cute little, you know, chubby-cheeked boy to a thin, taller, kind of braces person. I'm like, who is this? I'm like, oh, that's the bug kid, because he's rooming with Pugsley. And I also didn't much care for Eugene's attitude switch. He seemed a little like, I'm only doing Wednesday a favor. Like, He was the socially awkward boy in the first season. You'd think he'd be understanding of that. And I felt like he's been kind of rude to Pugsley. I don't, it's just odd.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. I don't, I mean, I don't think that real, I don't think it's out of character. I think that certain kids practically, if they have like a grow up period and they, they're come to a conclusion of like, Hey, maybe I can like use this growth spurt that I had over the summer to change my social setting to then be rude to somebody like Pugsley coming in and who's just a complete nightmare of a roommate who knows I mean within 15 minutes of being his roommate he's got a zombie in his

SPEAKER_00:

that's true that's true I mean there's a little call for rudeness there I expected Eugene to be a little nicer now when it comes to characters though Enid is my girl so I'm gonna defend her I feel a lot of people are coming for her online and I like that she was one of the her traits in season one was that she didn't she lacked so much confidence and now she is more confident in her abilities and being part of the wolf pack and I feel like like she did not handle her you know teenage relationship drama well by ghosting Ajax and then you know kind of starting a relationship with someone in her pack during but that to me is just teenagers we have to remember they're supposed to be like 16 so yeah I'm not mad I'm too mad at Enid I don't know if I trust the new werewolf boyfriend I felt like they had a good moment when they were on prank day like Wednesday's little stalker Agnes who we'll get into kind of set them up she could have killed them that's That was weird.

SPEAKER_02:

I mean, it's the Addams Family.

SPEAKER_00:

I felt like that guy kind of was vulnerable a little bit, but I'm not sure if I trust him. What

SPEAKER_02:

about you? I don't believe they've given you any on-screen reason not to trust him right now. They haven't given you any lingering looks or weird smirks. So if they pull something out that he's untrustworthy, that's not going to be earned necessarily. I think some of that is just you not trusting anything in a show where there's supposed to be mystery.

SPEAKER_00:

The only thing that they did was they showed, and I've seen the scene like where she Agnes is making her mad and she starts to like get her claws like her werewolf claws out he kind of stops from doing that and people have pointed that out as being weird I'm like no I think he was stopping that so she didn't attack Agnes so Agnes I think there's more to her than meets the eye this is our new character she's supposed to be Wednesday stalker kind of a little fangirl it's giving I don't remember what the student's name is but it reminds me of like Harry Potter where that boy was like always like infatuated with Harry Potter and always like following him around the school

SPEAKER_02:

was that in the books

SPEAKER_00:

yeah in the books early movies um that's what it sort of reminds me of but i feel like there is too many similarities with her and christina rishi

SPEAKER_02:

yeah you know so i thought that

SPEAKER_00:

but maybe it's not they have the big doe eyes and then when

SPEAKER_02:

christina rishi's character showed up at the end of episode three i thought okay here we go they're gonna do it then what happened to christina rishi's character at the end of episode four spoiler alert she gets impaled by the hide the hide tyler tyler And she is presumed dead.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

I'm starting to think that might have been just a red herring. I'm not sure that there was any connection there.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, some people think the other redhead, the new music teacher Capri, that there's a connection there. I don't know. I think if Capri ends up being bad, is that her name? Her name's Capri, right? I think so. I do not know.

SPEAKER_01:

I

SPEAKER_00:

think if the new music teacher ends up being bad, that is so obvious. I do think that she made this statement to Wednesday when Wednesday was playing the cello, like you can control things with your music. I do think that she can control stuff with her music. I think that might be one of her powers but I think I'm kind of going to be annoyed if she ends up being a big bad because it's like I know like she had that scene where she was out of breath and they were wanting us to like think it's her but if it really does mean that she's like the new big bad I think it's so obvious and then I'm going to have to ask Tim Burton do you hate redheads what's going on because Christina's character had red hair Agnes has red hair so I would rather like Agnes just be a crazy little student too but I don't know she gives me the willies

SPEAKER_02:

I agree I don't I don't think it's the music teacher at this point I think that she's they're trying to make us think maybe there's something to it but I don't I also think that the girl the lady the bird lady that they kind of revealed at the end of episode four because they kind of they've kind of revealed to us who was doing the bad stuff at this point I'm starting to wonder if but I'm wondering if there's something going on behind the scenes that we're not quite aware of yet I also hope it's not like like you said earlier I also hope it's not Steve Buscemi yeah as the headmaster because I just want him to be a jerk.

SPEAKER_00:

I think he's shady, and I do think there is some stuff that he knows about Bianca the siren and her situation with her mother. I think he knows a little bit what's going on, but I'd rather him just be a jerk as well. I don't want him to be, again, the big bad. I definitely agree with you that they're like I did think and I'm like oh you know with the whole because basically she's like the secretary at Willow Hill but we find out that she's supposedly the daughter of one of the doctors that was basically they were faking obituaries for some of the outcasts that were had a lot of crazy situations but they were keeping them in the basement at Willow Hill and doing experiments on them the doctor got so crazy that now he is a patient at Willow Hill and she was revealed I always thought that the actress, that there was going to be something up with her, but I'm starting to wonder if she's covering for the actual baddie. I don't know. Or

SPEAKER_02:

being controlled by.

SPEAKER_00:

Or being controlled by, yeah. I'm not sure we have that out.

SPEAKER_02:

Because I do think. But

SPEAKER_00:

I did guess that, that she was going to come out. Say I'm getting my edge back.

SPEAKER_02:

So, I mean, if I'm, you are, yes, you redeemed yourself. I did. You'd had a couple of big L's lately. And you redeemed yourself on that one. I do think that the elephant in the room that was not revealed this morning. these first four episodes is Ophelia. Yes. And who, and I think that that's a candidate for somebody who could be controlling this because we know she spent a large amount of time at.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, you think Ophelia is going to be

SPEAKER_02:

bad? Yeah. At Willow Hill. Right. I think we know she spent a long time there. They said she was there for 20 years before she went missing. I trust

SPEAKER_00:

Morticia's mom less than I do Ophelia.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, for sure. But I don't think she's behind it. I think there's conflict between her and Ophelia, obviously. Interesting. Because her mom's the one that committed her there in the first place. Yeah. And so I think whenever that reveal starts to take place, I think we're going to see a lot more. She's a psychic, similar to Wednesday. She had the same thing happen with Wednesday's black tears. So maybe she's been able to master her powers and now she can control people. I don't know. I'm

SPEAKER_00:

just saying. I don't want her to be bad. That would kind of irritate me. I don't mind Wednesday's grandma being a little shady but i don't maybe unless that we can say that ophelia has been controlling it but then can have a redemption i don't know i i think that would kind of get on my nerves i mean

SPEAKER_02:

she could have redemption because like it's the adams family if she comes out and she's like part of the family but she's been killing all these people they'll be like oh well the family's family like it's the adams family

SPEAKER_01:

yeah

SPEAKER_02:

so by the way i want to just point out because i didn't know this i don't know why i guess my brain just erased it i had no idea it was adams family with two d's

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, we started like the first episode and you paused it and you were like, oh, my gosh. And I'm like, seriously? All right. All

SPEAKER_02:

right. I did not. You know how your brain. Wednesday. You know how your brain just like delete stuff when you're reading because you don't. Cause it just sees it, but you're, you don't like actively notice it. Your brain just is like, okay, I understand it. That was what it is. I saw Adams. I like, we had it paused and I was looking at it for long enough and I was like, why are there two D's in there? Has it always been that way? Yes.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes.

SPEAKER_02:

Apparently it has.

SPEAKER_00:

So the end of last season, Wednesday was kind of in a love triangle. Um, the boy that played Xavier, kind of the loner boy at the school, um, that actor got into some legal stuff. So they did have to quickly write Xavier out. They did mention why Xavier wasn't there as dad sent him away to another school, and Xavier kind of sent Wednesday a card about some shenanigans going on for her to be aware of and to investigate. But then the other piece of the love triangle was Tyler, the barista, and I did figure out that he was bad very early on. I

SPEAKER_02:

know.

SPEAKER_00:

Book it. This

SPEAKER_02:

was before you started falling off.

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I fell off like one time, maybe twice. I don't remember. What was the second thing? I know that thing you do. But there was something that I really liked. And now I can't even remember. But, like, I lost my edge because I cared so much. I don't know. I don't remember. I don't remember either. Can we move on? Sure. Anyway. So, at the end of season one, it was revealed that Tyler was, in fact, the monster. He was the hide. Tyler's mother... was presumably dead, and his father was the sheriff in town. His father is no longer the sheriff at the start of season two. Tyler has been committed to Willow Hill, and at some point, Tyler's father is murdered by whoever's controlling the Ravens. We don't know. I think, like you said, there's more to that than that little finish it up at the bow going on. And we did get to see Tyler, and can we just say he was serving in that mental institution. Oh, my gosh. They had him in the chains, shirtless. The body is T. I was just like, all right, I still ship them. Yeah. Enemies to lovers. Extreme. Let's go. I think there's still good in him. I really do. Wednesday and that last episode, let's just mostly talk about the last episode because it was the best one. Like you said, it felt like season one. They make this plan to get into Willow Hill, figure out what's going on. They find out all the patients downstairs and they rescue this woman. She's in a room that's marked no unauthorized entrance, very dangerous. She's kind of in the corner of the room and at first i was like oh is this ophelia because we knew ophelia spent time there but then as you think about it fester because uh he kind of got himself committed to help wednesday uh figure out this mystery um he didn't seem to recognize her and then it was um later announced that lady gaga is going to be in with this season of wednesday so i think lady gaga is going to be ophelia and i think this woman is tyler's mom I think she is alive. I think that's how we can presume that.

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I think they want us to maybe think it's Ophelia, but like you said, Fester saw her. He would have known what Ophelia looks like.

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And I believe people are saying in the comics Ophelia was blonde too, which would make sense with Lady Gaga. So I think that's what's going on and with like the whole Fester not recognizing. And there's this scene at the end where, but right, you know, after Christina Ricci's character, you know, gets offed by the hide, AKA Tyler, allegedly, we didn't really see the body, where Wednesday and Tyler do come face to face at once. I think he's already in the hide form and they stare at each other. And then our final scene is Wednesday being tossed out of a window, landing on the ground. She's not going to be dead. They already showed that she's in a coma. So what is it? I think they say something like in the trailer for season two, like she's always dreamed of something like this and your death coma, like our little girls, just as the Addams family would do. But the inclination is that Tyler. in the hide form knocked her out of that window I don't know if I'm clowning because I still ship them I think one if he did knock her out of the window he could easily have impaled her and killed her with the claws that's how you kill people so maybe he did that to get her away or maybe he didn't and mommy turned into a hide and knocked her out of there so it was really frustrating to finish that fourth episode for me because i felt like i was enjoying the other three episodes like i don't want anybody to not think i was but i felt like that's where it really got good and then like you said to have oh well

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i think later see you in a month the frustrating thing about the way netflix has broken this season up is i feel like a lot of the complaints people have had about the first three episodes really if the season had continued and the pace got where it was and we got to see the things we wanted to see I think those complaints would just kind of melt away. That's what I was saying at the beginning. And everybody would forget. But because they've like made us have to sit here with these four, it's going to make everybody think season two probably isn't as good. Or, you know, the next four episodes, the last four episodes would come out and it could suck and be the same way and we don't care. Or they'll be great. Or they'll be great, yeah. But I think that's the conversation that's been struck by the fact that they are breaking it

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up. That's kind of what I was trying to articulate at the beginning about like my main complaints is I don't think I would have these complaints if I had gotten the season at once So we're definitely on the same page there. But, you know, I'm glad it's back. I enjoy it. I think I do think fans are, you know, we're allowed to have a little bit of beef that we waited like three years and we just got four episodes. So. At least they're not making us wait like six months for part two. It's September 3rd, which will probably be another Wednesday. Yeah, it's just it's

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yeah, it's rough with these shows like getting them in this frequency. And yes, September 3rd is a Wednesday. I do think that, you know, this show probably got affected by the strike just like a bunch of other ones did. But still, like this show came out in 2022 and we're getting in 2020. That's almost four years of a wait. That's a long, and particularly when you're talking about a show with a bunch of actors who are supposed to be in high school.

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That's

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the amount of time they would have been in high school

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between seasons. It's just like the Stranger Things kids are all old.

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Well, don't get me started on

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that. But, like, yeah, Eugene was the biggest teller. Jenna Ortega was already, you know, an adult woman basically filming. So, like, she's going to be able to still look the same, kind of same for Enid. But, like, it's the younger ones that you're like, ah!

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Yeah, so I don't know. I know there's not much we can do about it. This is the state of television these days. And I'm certainly not advocating for going back to 2010 six episode seasons where the actors are exhausted because they're filming for nine months of the year.

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Give me the 20 plus episode seasons. Give me filler episodes. I'll even take it. And only the summer break? Well fed. I

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think we can find a happy medium between 8 episodes and 26. There's numbers in between there we could have that would allow you to have the flexibility of

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This just shows how we've been that we were excited that like one of the shows we were streaming we were like oh my gosh it has like 10 episodes and we got excited about it. That's insane. The thing is what they're doing and I complained about this on the Summer I Turned Pretty when I was talking about last week is you can't give me these short seasons with these long breaks and still give me filler episodes. I think filler episodes are great for character development in those long seasons, but no.

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Like, I love a good Star Trek filler episode in Next Gen or something. Of course you have to watch Star Trek again. Right? But... I'm not so accepting of filler episodes in Strange New Worlds because I know I only get 10 episodes.

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Well, let's go back to Wednesday. Okay. Wednesday. There are some theories online about Lurch being the one that controls it because he has the same eye. No. I don't believe that. Lurch has always been loyal to the Addams Family. Lurch is always just

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Lurch. Sorry. That's just what that

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is. And then there's other people that are like, why is Thane always reacting so weird to the zombie? And I'm like, people thinking that Thane could have been the zombie's original hand. And I'm like, I think that's stretching it a bit. I

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don't... Yeah. If they go that direction... I'm not a fan. Well, because the zombie is a former student of the school, and I guess they didn't really give us a time frame about when he was a student, so maybe it's possible. But Thing has always been an Addams Family thing. I

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do like that Enid built Thane a little house in their apartment.

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But we know for a fact that Thing was around when Gomez went to Nevermore, so he's been around with them for a while.

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Do you like it? I did.

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I loved it. It was perfect.

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I do wish we had more Enid Wednesday scenes, but I think the reason they're separating them right now it makes sense for the plot because Wednesday had that vision of Enid dying and she's trying to save her but and I'm not saying we need to have romantic scenes between them but I love their friendship it's just a classic case of you know opposites and I think that brings out such a good side of like Wednesday that you don't normally see is her friendship with Enid and then it's always funny and creepy when Wednesday smiles we've seen her smile for Fester and then she smiled with grandma yeah And it's like, you had to, like, pause the TV. You're like, ah, she's smiling. Yeah,

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it's weird. And Jenna Ortega does a great job making it creepy and weird.

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So, question for you. Do you think that Tyler can be redeemed?

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I mean, anybody... Yeah, sure, he could be. I mean, he certainly had problems with... Christina Ricci's character. Yeah. So he's clearly not being

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controlled. And he could have actually fully killed Wednesday.

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Yeah, he's

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not. By impaling her and he didn't.

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He's not being controlled by her anymore. He is truly acting on his own

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will. Or Mommy Dearest kicked him off the thing. Yeah,

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we don't know what happened in there.

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Some people think Wednesday is technically controlling him, but she doesn't realize it. I don't agree with that.

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No, I don't think that's the case. Could he be? Yeah. Will they? I don't know. I don't really know that I care.

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I know you

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just want it for the ship.

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I do. I like the ship. So that's it for Wednesday. Wed-nez-day.

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That's spelled Wed-nez-day. For anybody who's struggling.

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Your PSA. All right, Daniel. So when you did your solo episode, you said we were going to talk about this, and then we just completely forgot to talk about it. But we watched another movie, not at the theater, at home. a sequel many years in the making Happy Gilmore 2 and I can say to you that if Adam Sandler did not have that deal with Netflix we would have seen this at the theater because I love the first Happy Gilmore and I do love a lot of those early stupid ridiculous Adam Sandler movies like Billy Madison The Waterboy of course like OG Happy Gilmore they're funny I enjoyed them and yeah we forgot to talk about it not because it was forgettable we literally just our brains were It was exactly what I thought it was going to be for the most part. Ridiculous. Stupid, hilarious, but a really nice way to turn off my brain and enjoy some nostalgia. That's my review of Happy Gilmore 2.

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It was better than I thought it was going to be, but that's because I thought it was going to be terrible.

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It was like the first one wasn't good either, technically, if you're going by that standard. That's just such a highbrow opinion to have. Like, ooh, la, la, la, la, la. There were always dumb movies, Daniel. The first one's stupid too.

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No, I agree that the first one's stupid, but sometimes you're going to see a stupid movie. I thought... They were going to just basically repeat the first movie in this movie. And they did repeat some beats, but they also made some choices. with some characters and did a few things that were interesting that I appreciated.

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Like the first couple minutes?

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Yeah, the first couple minutes. Let's not spoil this one for everybody, but within five minutes, the choice they made with one character, I was in all of a sudden because I was like, oh wait, they actually did something interesting.

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That this one character too, Julie Bowen, also known to most people nowadays as Claire Dunphy from Modern Family, was working hard for Adam doing all the press tours and doing more interviews than He did to hype the movie up, so my jaw just about dropped. What's his... The guy, Scotty, the one golf... They had tons of golfers in there. Tons of

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golfers.

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And they were great. The golfers were great. Scotty Scheffler?

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Yeah.

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I think he deserves an Oscar for his performance.

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The golfers were great. That was unexpected. First of all, to have them so... featured in Center. And you know those golfers are all guys. Jack Nicholson was one of them. Those golfers are all guys that grew up, especially the younger ones, grew up loving Happy Gilmore. And they were just so excited to be in the movie, but not just to be in the movie, but at least a few of them were pretty big characters.

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Well, Scotty referenced his arrest that happened before the golf thing again, and I didn't realize that. And then I remember reading about him, like, oh, that's the same guy. Really, the only one that didn't show up was Tiger Woods, but he did get a mention. And then what is the guy... John Daly. John Daly. He had like a big role in it. And just basically played, I feel like everyone, I was like, is he playing an exaggerated version of himself? And everyone's like, no, he was not. I thought it was really funny. Like I said, lots of good callbacks, lots of good nostalgia. And sometimes you just need on a Friday night a ridiculous... nostalgia filled funny movie and I would have not regretted paying to see that in a theater what about you I

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would have been fine like it was the only reason this movie was of a quality enough that the only reason it ended up on Netflix was because Sam's got that deal

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and you know that I do love a good redemption shooter McGavin man

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yeah yeah like the things they did with the characters were not things that you like they could have just phoned it in and made another happy Gilmore 2 and done it exactly like what you would think a happy Gilmore 2 would be

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and from my understanding they did have to do some rewrites because um what's the actor's name Apollo Creed

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yeah

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who was in it what is his name is it Carl Carl Weathers Carl Weathers like he was supposed to have like a pretty big role in it like and even though I'm pretty sure he like died at the end of the first one but I think he was gonna be like an angel or something and they kind of had to like rewrite that whole thing but yeah like the people that were like that are criticizing happy Gilmore for being stupid I'm like did you watch the first one

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yeah Yeah.

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Did you watch that one? All right. So we know how much everybody loves superhero movies. Why are you looking at me like that?

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We watched the Fantastic Four.

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Why are you pausing dramatically? I

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don't know. It's just funny for dramatic effect.

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Okay. You're being weird. Should we restart that over again? Are you good? I'm

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good. Talk about the Fantastic Four.

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All right. We also saw another movie. We finally got to see the Fantastic Four. Is it called? The official title, the Fantastic Four First Steps?

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Yeah.

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Is that what it's called? I don't

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know why it needed a subtitle.

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Everyone's just going to call it Fantastic Four. We took our nephews to see it. We went to the fancy theater, which I've got to call you out for this. What is wrong with you? You are, again, back to the Frosties. Please

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be more specific.

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You are so... Just in general. You are so set. You're so weird. Like my favorite thing about going when I don't have to be at our little theater around here, as I know, like when I've seen movies at like the AMC Theater in Disney Springs and then over at Regal, usually of my hometown. And they didn't have these seats when I was growing up in my hometown. This is new. The reclining seats are so comfortable. I love being able to recline. One thing. I can't sit in the seat at our theater without my feet dangling. So it's never comfortable for that. And if somebody sits in front of me, I can't rest my feet on the seat in front of me. So major, major vibe killer. And I think the seats at our theater, they do need to be shampooed a little bit. But I love getting to recline to get cozy, to get comfy. I have plenty of space in my seat because they're clearly meant for big people, right? Like there's plenty of space. Like I could fit probably another Hope with me in the seat if I wanted to. I look over. Daniel's not reclined at all. You didn't recline once during the movie. And I was like, do you know how to recline? Because I had to ask my nephew the first time I took him. I think I'd been there before with the reclining seats, but it had been several years. I was like, Gavin, which button do I press to recline when I took him to see Wicked? And he was laughing at me. So I'm like, do you know how to do it? And you're like, no, I just don't want to. Are you just intentionally being stubborn or do you really not like to recline? What is the matter with you?

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I do not want to participate in this ridiculous trend of people thinking that they have to go to the movie theater and be like, just lax in their lazy boy. I'm there to watch the movie.

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Yeah, and it makes my movie watching experience better that my feet aren't dangling off the seat and that I can recline and be in a comfortable position. Maybe you're just tallest. You just don't understand short people. But I would go, you didn't even try to recline. And now you did tell me, you're like, I just, and apparently Apparently, it could be the most exciting movie ever, and you said that the last time you were there and tried to recline, you almost fell asleep because you get too comfortable. You're so weird. I

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have almost fallen asleep on a Disney ride.

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No, we were in line for the Meet Mickey, and you were leaning against the wall, and I said, wake up.

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So are you doubting me that I could recline in one of those seats at the theater and almost fall asleep?

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You should be medicated. I

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am, but...

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try it. You're so... I don't like it. I don't want it. You're so stubborn. I want

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my old

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crappy seat.

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You're like, get off my lawn. I want the old crappy seat with gum underneath it that smells like cigarettes and I want to sit there and I want to watch the movie sitting straight up like an American.

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No, I like to recline and be cozy. I mean, for goodness sake, except Wicked, we just bought, because Gavin and I bought all the merch. Well, I bought all the merch and I bought us those pillows and I was like, well, how's this going to be functional? I almost want to brain it every time I go to the because it made it even more cozy to hold my little Glinda pillow. I was eyeing a Superman pillow that they had, but I thought, you know, I'm seeing a Fantastic Four, a different type of movie. But the whole time I kept looking over, and I kept waiting for Daniel to recline, and then he just wouldn't. I think part of you is you're just a stubborn man. So

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Fantastic Four, what did you think?

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I thought it was great. I really like this new trend that we're doing. of not giving origin stories. We didn't get the origin story before Superman. enjoyed that I know that's DC different movie company but I didn't need to see I've already seen an origin story for Fantastic Four we saw the ones from 2005 that was my introduction to them I did not see the ones with Miles Teller Kate Mara and Michael B Jordan I heard that one was comically awful which is interesting to me because that's a really good cast but whole other story I already know who the Fantastic Four are and they basically they kind of did it almost in a similar way with Superman but you know not quite where just this first couple minutes show you know what what like a little reel about the fantastic I think it was like a set like an anniversary of like for something for the Fantastic Four so you already you know see how they got their powers what they've been up to everything's going on I didn't have to watch Sue Storm and Mr. Fantastic like Reed Richards that's his name I didn't have to watch them finally get together like they were already together like she's like already you know it opens with her being pregnant They're already established. I don't need... I'm at this point where I'm like, I don't want another... Because to me, it almost seems like a waste of time. Just jump in, give me the plot, give me everything. Definitely, it's the best Fantastic Four movie that I've seen. We saw the one in 2005, and I think the other one was 2007.

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Somewhere in that time

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frame, yeah. And I didn't hate those movies. No, I

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didn't hate those movies

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either. I think, like you said, they were going up against Spider-Man at the time, so it was hard to compete. And like I said, I didn't see the other ones. I had a lot of high expectations for Fantastic Four. And I wouldn't say it exceeded my expectations. But pretty much, looking back, I think it met them. It was a really good movie. It's hard to come off Superman and watch that one because the vibe is totally different. I felt like Superman, yes, it had that emotional speech, but it was... I'd say it was more like a fun, summer, blockbuster, popcorn-y movie than what Fantastic Four was, if that makes any sense. No, I agree. Fantastic Four, the stakes were a lot higher. It was very emotional, and it did have fun, jokey moments, but I didn't leave feeling the same way as I left Superman and even Thunderbolts. that I left Fantastic Four, but that doesn't mean that I didn't enjoy it. It was just the vibe between all those three, those big three superhero movies, the vibes are different for each of them, and I could make cases of why one is better than the other. you know in general but yeah I really liked it I felt like I've never gotten to see how powerful Sue Storm is until this one I'm not saying Jessica Alba did a bad job with the role she you know did what she was given but I felt like you really got to see like wow Sue Storm might be the most powerful of all of them

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she was more more the main character of this movie than any of the other fantastic

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four Joseph Quinn continues to impress me I my first was introduced to him on your favorite show Stranger Things as Eddie but he is a very good actor and I felt like Johnny Storm we finally got to see what I feel just from the vibe I've gotten on TikTok with some hardcore Fantastic Four fans we finally got to see Johnny Storm presented in the way he was. Chris Evans, great actor, but he really leaned into the whole womanizing thing. And you still had that, but you also got to see how smart and funny and how caring. And I think Joseph Quinn did great. I think he stole the show for me if I had to pick. And then, of course, I can't remember the actor's name, but Cousin from The Bear that played... Ben

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or The Thing.

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Or Ben or The Thing. It was great. Obviously, Pedro Pascal, I thought he was really good. I thought he did a really good job emphasizing how scientific Reed Richards is to a point where sometimes he says the wrong thing. That's part of Reed Richards' personality. He just says the scientific thing, the logical thing, and doesn't really take into consideration feelings. And that clearly can be a conflict in his marriage with Sue because we have the whole plot about basically...

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My boss wants to buy my baby.

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Yeah. What is the Galactus? Galactus. That's the villain. And he's basically saying, I won't destroy your earth if you give me your baby. So they have that whole mission. They come back down. And he just tells everybody in their press conference, he's like, and we said no and I'm like it's clear to me that you're not on the other earth with the other people because they would all have been like you know F them kids and like who would have been going after that baby and I'm just like from my PR brain like what are you doing Silver Surfer Julia Gardner is that her name from Ozark I wish we could have seen I would have liked to have seen more of her I feel like there and people have said that there are some scenes that were in the trailer that were cut I feel like there's some footage that was on the cutting room floor that I would have liked to see more of but that was I thought she was a good not really villain but you know

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antagonist

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antagonist um i really enjoyed it i didn't expect to cry i definitely cried uh they had you there at the

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end like i thought yeah they drew that out

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i'm not gonna fully go into what happens but i really thought like oh wow

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well so they they drew it out to the point where because okay because let's let's like everybody i know me you know me yeah i walked into this movie knowing exactly what happens at the end and

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like the post credit scenes They do, because you have no chill.

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They drew that out at the very end of the movie long enough that I'm like, did I misunderstand what I was seeing in the post-credit

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scene? Because they kept going, and I was like... You thought maybe it was really going to happen.

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Wait, wait. But they pulled it back.

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The post-credit scene was great. It definitely sets up Doomsday, which is, I believe, that is the next Marvel project, correct? And we get to learn, and I've since done some Googling about how powerful baby Franklin is. Clearly powerful enough to resuscitate another being. You could

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almost say that this movie was, in fact, a... origin story, just not of the Fantastic Four, but

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of Franklin Richards. Maybe, maybe. I think that scene at the end of Thunderbolts, that post-credits scene where you see the Fantastic Four ship, I feel like originally people thought that maybe they were leaving their Earth to come. I don't think that, I think the only person related to the Fantastic Four is Franklin, and I think it's Franklin and Doctor Doom.

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On that ship.

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Yeah, I agree with you. And I think we're going to have the other members of Fantastic Four trying to jump earths to come find them because they like their world their earth looks like they're in the 60s are they necessarily and I'm a little doesn't matter

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don't worry about it don't think about it that

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I do like in terms of aesthetic vibes really reminded me of Disney's contemporary resort their hotel which I love at one point you looked at me you're like this is the music from Tomorrowland and I'm pretty sure you're right because if it's not it sounds exactly like

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it's not

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I liked all of that I thought the costuming was good I thought like I said I thought everybody did a great job it was just it was hard to come off of superman and then see this because it was such a different tone and movie but it wasn't like dark and depressing in that in the way some other marvel projects have been like yes it was emotional it just When I say popcorn, I'm not demeaning Superman. Superman, I came out like, oh, woohoo, so much fun with all the music. Whereas this one, I came out thinking, all right, what's next for Marvel? What's going on? How are we going to get from point A to point B? So that's kind of my thing on it. I'll let you talk about it, and then we can rank them.

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I'm pretty similar to you. I enjoyed the movie. I thought it was good. I'm... it's really difficult for me to say this is the last movie before the Avengers Doomsday and go, am I excited for Avengers Doomsday? Because sure. But then I also have to, I can't ignore all the other casting information that we've heard about Avengers Doomsday.

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We're getting another cast announcement too.

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Yeah. And so it's like, if I feel like I'm worried about Doomsday a little bit.

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I'm

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worried about it because I'm worried that... I think one thing you said to me about the Fantastic Four, and I agree, was this is the first Marvel movie in a long time that you could just walk into, and this is your first Marvel movie, and you would understand what is going

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on. You don't have to watch any of the shows, any of the movies. You could walk in, and like Thunderbolts, you have to understand stuff. This is one you could buy a ticket, not know anything about Marvel, and enjoy this movie. And

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I'm... If this was leading into Doomsday and it was essentially almost going to be an extension of this movie, similar to how the Avengers, the first Avengers movie was an extension of just the small handful of movies going in, I think it would make more sense. But the cast already announced, plus the potential another round of casting announcements and the rumors of all the people that they're not going to announce and just going to let fly out there. has me a little worried about that movie being a mess.

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Supposedly Robert Downey Jr. actually was on set as Dr. Doom for that first credit scene. That also, I

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have my own thoughts about all of that. There's a whole lot of theory. Maybe that's for another day. I'm not in board with it, if any of that stuff is true. I'm still, let me put it this way. They're going to have to prove to me that Robert Downey Jr. as Doom is the correct choice. But this movie was good. I liked it a lot. I think it was probably a bright spot in, I mean, I didn't enjoyed Thunderbolts too and we'll get to that in a minute but I think this was a bright spot in what's been up and down in Marvel movies over the past couple years

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excellent assessment I think that definitely Franklin is going to be a huge part of Doomsday and that's why they chose to tie it in with Fantastic Four I think that's got to be it I think

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if the rumors about what happens in the Avengers movie after Doomsday the Secret Wars movie where essentially that's going to end with a big reset I think that's I think Franklin might be the key to all that, too. Because he's, like, super powerful. I

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really hope that they announce Wanda in the next set. Please. Don't hold your breath. You know that they're going to kill my babies. Like, Loki is coming back. Bucky's going to be in there. And I just know. I'm going to have to roll up to Kevin Feige's house and be like, what are you doing? Like, he just always gets rid of my favorite characters. It's super annoying. Um, but I think definitely people in terms of like movie prices, superhero fatigue, because Superman's not doing as well at the box office as I thought it would, because, you know, that's what I think of superheroes. I think of three as like the heavy hitters before I knew anything about Marvel. I think of Batman, Superman, and then Spider-Man, which Spider-Man is Marvel. Like those are the three. And I felt like that would make more than it did. So I think it's a combination of like somebody, I watched this whole TikTok where this guy was like, are we at a place in time where, um, you know, that, that era of everybody, you know, being the superhero movie, the next big thing to watch isn't, isn't a thing anymore. I don't know. We'll see. I, I still like it. I still want to watch them. I'm excited, but I do think that people have fatigue and I think Marvel fatigue is big right now.

SPEAKER_02:

Sure. Oh yeah. And totally understandable from my perspective. Like I get it, especially this second at the post end game world where like, if you're not paying attention to what's going on on Disney plus, you're going to be missing out. and some stuff and not everybody wants to commit

SPEAKER_00:

to that kind of stuff. And I went to a movie with one of my friends when we saw the most recent Ant-Man and I had to like lean in and explain to her a lot of stuff that she did not know because she didn't watch like the Loki show. She's like, what is this? What is going on? I also think you can't convince me like, is it Kane in Disney?

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

In the Marvel stuff, like he was supposed to play a bigger role and clearly they've had to do some rewrites for that. So that's again, that's not on them. We'll see. So Daniel, when it comes to, because again, counting now I don't think Thunderbolts was after Memorial Day but we're just still going to count it as a summer superhero movie we've got Thunderbolts we have Superman and we have the Fantastic Four your job is to rank them personally what appeal to you personally but then how you would rank them for an average moviegoer because I have different rankings if that makes sense would you like me to go first this

SPEAKER_02:

pains me

SPEAKER_00:

Do you want me to go first? No, I'll go. Okay, go.

SPEAKER_02:

No, I'm monologuing. Okay, I see. This pains me to my very core. But it's Superman Fantastic Four Thunderbolts.

SPEAKER_00:

for you personally

SPEAKER_02:

yes

SPEAKER_00:

really because that's not you what's really interesting is that you put thunderbolts in the three slot when we talked about superman you said you like thunderbolts better than superman

SPEAKER_02:

but i've had time to think about it and i change my mind all the time and i am so not only did you bump just um inconsistent from day to day which

SPEAKER_00:

i guess so so that's your personal and what you think for everybody else

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, I think so. I think Thunderbolts is three just because of the three movies, that is the one where if you aren't keeping up day to day with Marvel, that one's going to confuse you versus Fantastic Four and Superman. Both are movies where I think the general person who doesn't know anything about comic book movies can walk in and pretty much understand what's

SPEAKER_00:

going on. So again, I have you for you personally, not for other people. You're still putting Superman in your top slot, even though you are a perpetual known Superman hater.

UNKNOWN:

Correct.

SPEAKER_00:

And you said literally like two weeks ago on the podcast or three weeks ago that you would that you like Thunderbolts better than Superman.

SPEAKER_01:

Yes.

SPEAKER_00:

You've had time to ruminate on. All right. I guess everybody can. What is it? What is the great rock? Everybody can change. Everybody can change. I feel like for everybody in the general audience that Superman is the best of the three. I think that you it was fun. Perfect popcorn movie. It's a movie that you're going to feel good. Soundtrack is great. And then I'm going to. be like you when that put Fantastic Four in the next slot and then Thunderbolts. I feel like to really like Thunderbolts, you have to know who Yelena is. You have to know who Bucky is. You kind of have to have, you had to watch the Disney Plus shows, some of them along with some of the movies to really understand all these characters. So I don't think, I think if you were a casual movie person, you'd be like, what? I don't understand. I'm so confused as to what's going on in Thunderbolts. And then when it comes to me personally, I don't know. I really feel like I need to re-watch the Thunderbolts when it Hopefully it'll be on Disney Plus soon because I love Thunderbolts. It was a great movie. I loved it. I thought it was a great look at mental health. I have a soft spot. Bucky's one of my favorite Marvel characters right up there with Loki. I love Yelena. I thought it was hilarious and so funny, and I laughed so much, and I really wish it was getting more love. Oh, it's just so hard for me because it pains me like it does you, too.

SPEAKER_02:

I don't know. By the way, me saying that Superman is in that number one spot doesn't pain me because I'm like... I'm not engaged in this DC vs. Marvel war that everybody else is really interested in. I don't care. It was a good, fun movie. Then why did it pay you? Because I'm not a Superman fan. I never have been a Superman fan. Superman is a problematic hero for me because of how good he is. The flawlessness of him is a problem for me. But I did enjoy that movie and I thought overall it did a really good job with what it was trying to accomplish.

SPEAKER_00:

It was fun. think I'm honestly to make my final decision I might have to go back and rewatch them all but it's oh it's so close I really did like Thunderbolts though so much I think I might take the unpopular opinion and go Thunderbolts Superman Fantastic Four but they could easily win the brain of hope which changes all the time they could easily be interchangeable that's how much I like Thunderbolts You guys, as I just, but I, again, putting aside my personal things, I go Superman, Fantastic Four, Thunderbolts. They were just, each movie had its own vibe. Two, three, and you know what? I'm happy that we had three great superhero movies to enjoy this summer and that they all three made me feel different things and that I enjoyed them all.

SPEAKER_02:

Same here. Okay, so last week we promised you Hope did watch a show on Netflix by herself, The Hunting Wives.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes. Recommended to me by you. I

SPEAKER_02:

recommend shows to you all the time that I have no intention of watching.

SPEAKER_00:

You were like, hey, I've heard this show's crazy and weird and like really trashy. And I'm like, no, no, say no more. Yeah, it seemed like

SPEAKER_02:

exactly to me what I saw on TikTok was like exactly the kind of show you'd be interested. So I was like, hey, watch this.

SPEAKER_00:

And I did see one clip of it. Where I'm like on TikTok and I'm like, okay, this might not be a show about wives whose husbands hunch. They're hunting wives. So. It's based on a book, which I did not know. And now I want to read the book. I hate that I watched the show before the book. I want to read the book now because I'm sure the books, I heard the books like even more insane. And these, it's in Texas, a small town in Texas, which I guess they filmed some of this in Charlotte, North Carolina, like some of the exteriors from the homes. Kaylin, if you're listening, did you see any production from this show? I want to know. Any of my other, I think there's other people in the Charlotte area. Did you see this? They must film a lot of stuff in Charlotte sometimes because I know they do a lot of homework They

SPEAKER_02:

always film shows set in one place in another place when they could have easily just filmed in the place that it was set to begin

SPEAKER_00:

with. Ready Night Lights actually did film in Texas.

SPEAKER_02:

It always annoyed me that they made a Mothman movie and they filmed it in Pennsylvania instead of Point Pleasant,

SPEAKER_00:

West Virginia. Yeah, but that would ruin our traffic and our tiny, our one street town. Well, I didn't live in Point Pleasant when they did that movie,

SPEAKER_02:

so I didn't care.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay, anyway. This show is, it checks all the boxes. It is trashy, but like in a good way. There are bad wigs, which I think we talked about wigs in the last episode. Do you wear

SPEAKER_03:

wigs?

SPEAKER_00:

But it's just, it all fits. It's, Brittany Snow is in this. She's known for John Tucker Must Die, a little show called American Dreams that I used to watch when I was in high school.

SPEAKER_02:

She's also a bastard from the North. No.

SPEAKER_00:

Because of her last name, Snow. No. You know her from Pitch Perfect. It's a joke.

SPEAKER_02:

It's a Game of Thrones

SPEAKER_00:

joke. I know that. I'm choosing to ignore it. I don't know how to pronounce her name. Mylon something. She plays kind of the main... I think Brittany Snow was sort of the main character, Sophie. But then she plays like... Marjorie. I think they call her Marjorie. Maggie is what her family calls her, but I think it's like Marjorie of the show. Whatever. I just know her as like, oh, that's like the main, like Mrs. Banks. I'm Mrs. Banks. The accents aren't great either, by the way, people. She is in 27 Dresses. That's where I mostly know her from. She's done other movies, but as you did point out and you were correct. I knew her from Watchmen. From Watchmen. So she's done a lot of like movie type roles. But this is the first time I feel like I've seen her on a TV show. So it's got those two are kind of the leads. Super Gavin shows up, Dermot McGroney, whatever, the fancy man. He plays a rich guy running for governor in Texas. So we've got Sophie. She moves to this Texas town with her husband. Her husband is an architect. He's working for Jed. That is Marjorie's husband. She... It kicks things off right away. They're like, we're going to a fundraiser. She's like, what's the fundraiser for? It's for an NRA party. Cannot make this up. We find out too that Sophie, her husband, won't let her drive. She's not allowed to drink because of a dark secret from her past, which it turns out she was really drunk and had a hit and run and killed a person. She's kind of been really restricted on lockdown. She really takes she meets Mrs. Banks I gotta look up make sure her name is Marjorie on the show before I call her the wrong name the whole time so I'm gonna do that really quick you talk about what you've seen when you would walk in on me watching The Hunting Wives while I look this up

SPEAKER_02:

nudity mostly nudity yeah a lot of nudity it seems

SPEAKER_00:

Margo see it's a good thing I looked it up not Marjorie Margo Banks her family cousin Maggie that makes more sense now I knew it wasn't Marjorie I was like that sounds too old Margo Margot. I don't know, Margot. margo

SPEAKER_02:

it seems like every time it doesn't matter what show you're watching if there's a love scene or nudity and i'm not watching the show i happen to walk by all that stuff's on

SPEAKER_00:

watching the hunting wives come on which they first meet in the bathroom at the nra party and margo like it's like hey do you have a tampon and chloe or no do you have a pad and chloe's like no or not chloe why am i calling her chloe sophie i need to get my names right Sophie's like, no, I only have tampons. And she's like, oh, I can't wear tampons. And then she takes her dress off. So, like, boobs, first episode, right out of the gates. And just, like, takes her clothes off in front of Sophie in this bathroom and puts, like, some toilet paper in her panties. And then they go out to the party together. And she's like, I like you. We should hang out. And they start hanging out. They go, like, they have, like, a cabin house or something. Sophie clearly decides she's going to start drinking. She buys a gun. They go boar hunting. It's like a whole thing. She kind of meets the other friend group. Callie is married to the sheriff in town. Those two clearly have a lavender marriage. And basically we find out that Margo is a wild woman. She's doing the high school kid, Brad. who also has a girlfriend who that this is relevant um she's also she and her husband like she they like they bring prostitutes home and like hook up with them she but supposedly her and her husband's rule is that she can only like hook up with other women not men so he doesn't know about the brad thing but she and callie are hooking up even and he knows about that she's like i had to when he decides he's gonna run for governor she's like i had to break things off with callie and he's like weren't you gonna do that anyway because she's like a stage one cleaner and she's like yeah and then she and Sophie clearly have like a vibe and they eventually you know hook up so she's just getting down and dirty with everybody like everybody's very drawn to her and I feel like Sophie is very drawn to her because she's been so like I don't like Sophie's husband either but she's been so kind of like what am I saying not repulsed restricted like her personality, like because of everything she went through, like she wasn't, like she's just been kind of living this life where she's not really doing much. And I think that's part of it, part of their draw. But then you find out later in the series that Sophie had hooked up with her female roommate and I guess said that she loved her female roommate during it. And then her roommate like brings it up and she's like, oh no, I was drunk. And then suddenly she decides to go to a party with what is her then husband. So I think she's clearly has some repressed sexual desires, if you will. I think you could

SPEAKER_02:

sum that show up with that statement. A bunch of people with some repressed sexual desires.

SPEAKER_00:

They're not repressive. They're all acting on them. They're doing

SPEAKER_02:

it in secret. None of them feel like they can be out in the open with

SPEAKER_00:

this. Part of it, the whole thing is that they're in Texas. They like the guns. They're pro-life. And then one of the big plot points comes up to be later abortion. Nancy Grace shows up on the show,

SPEAKER_02:

y'all. When you told me that, you said Nancy Grace. I said, oh, like an actress? I thought you were saying somebody playing a Nancy Grace-like character to the point where it basically was Nancy Grace. But no, It was actually

SPEAKER_00:

Nancy Grace. I had to pause the show. I was like, oh, my gosh, Nancy Grace. So they have a creepy youth pastor, Pastor Pete, the whole thing. So we go back to Brad. That's the high school boy. They made it a point to say he's 18 like 50 times. I'm like, I bet this started before he was 18, though. And his girlfriend, Abby. And at first, I thought by the first couple episodes, they show this blonde woman getting shot. in the woods. And I thought it was Sophie, Brittany Snow's character. I think that was intentional. A little bit of a mess around because it is later revealed very early on, but it's revealed that it is Abby Jackson. So we have the death of this girl. We're trying to figure out who, who, who done it basically at one point they have. And again, we are a spoiler podcast. Please jump to the next episode and go watch this trashy, amazing show. Here's your warning. So, again, we have this thing that comes up where Sophie can't find her gun after one night of doing Xanax and partying and drinking. And she's like, where's my gun? And Margo, I think, had like she was also, you know, hooking up with Brad at the same time. They had another high school boy over there. She and Sophie hooked up this night. It's a whole thing. So we find out eventually where they found a murder weapon. in the case and it's the gun that Sophie bought and her husband's like you bought a gun and put it in our house and didn't tell me about it he's like you don't even know how to use a gun and she's like yeah well he's like that's crazy um so she gets framed for the murder of Abby like we all and then there's later as we were getting towards the end of it there's actual even footage of her talking to Abby in the woods which if they get a season two I'm gonna need this addressed they're saying that she was blackout crazy not trying to remember I kind of figured who the murderer was or I thought it was Margo. I was right. But they they end up thinking because they make you they do the classic case of they want you to think maybe it could have been Brad. I never thought it was Brad. Maybe it could have been Brad's crazy mother, Jill. Insane. This woman, this is where it really like she is. Talk about mom, like the boy moms are never going to beat the allegations with women like Jill. Talk about creepy. I can't even talk about when they have a flashback where her son is born, what she did when she started breastfeeding But she walks in on him in the shower when he's 18-year-old. And she's like, oh, it's nothing I haven't seen before. She kisses him on the lips. It's creepy. The whole vibe is weird. And you know that she doesn't like Abby. I was like, they want you to think that Jill did it, which means she didn't. But Jill did kill Abby's mother because Abby's mother showed up with a rifle at Jill's house ready to shoot her in And then Callie ends up shooting Jill because Margo and Callie walk over to figure out because they start suspecting that Jill is the one that was the killer. And they walk in and they find Star, Abby's mom, dead on the floor. And then Jill's like, she aims to try to shoot Margo. Margo and then Callie shoots her. And then right as Jill's dying, she's like, you cunts. I had to stop and pause the episode there as well. I feel like it was like one in the morning at this point. You didn't know this, did you? So it's just that element of it. And then we find out that it was Margo because guess what? They make you think that Abby had had an abortion from Brad. We find out all alone. The reason why she couldn't wear tampons at the beginning of that first episode was because she had had an abortion. And Abby knew about it. And she killed her in the woods about it. And, like, I really think that Margo was, like, a sociopath. Like she's just insane and very manipulative of everything, but also just such a character people are drawn to. So Sophie finds out all this, as far as I know, she never goes to the cops or anything. It just kind of ends. Like, I don't even, honestly, I can't, I don't even remember like exactly how it ended. Like, cause she's, I don't, I really don't, I'm trying to think, I don't think Sophie goes to the cops for it at all. They got

SPEAKER_02:

to leave that door open for season

SPEAKER_00:

two. I guess so. Maybe like I really, and the cops are very unhelpful. Like they were just trying to pin it on, Sophie anyway but we had this they also tried to make you think it was the pastor which turns out the pastor was creepy and it had been kidnapped one girl that they said was missing at the beginning of the season she had been living in his basement for like six months and he was the one that shot one of the other cops and then he captured Abby's friend so that was like a whole red flag and they're like oh well maybe he killed Abby no so there was a lot of elements murder mystery like you know doing it a lot guns And Nancy Grace. It just, it was, was it bad accents, but it was one of those episodes shows where every episode I was like, I was ready to click play on the next. Like it was that good. Thank you for recommending it to me.

SPEAKER_02:

Wow. That was weird.

SPEAKER_00:

It was really weird, but so good.

SPEAKER_02:

Okay, well, that brings us around to a couple things we've been watching. Of course, everybody here is aware we've been watching The Summer I Turned Vulcan. I mean, The Summer I Turned Pretty and Star Trek Strange New Worlds. Both of those just got one episode over the last week that we've watched. Anything in particular you wanted to point out about one of those two

SPEAKER_00:

shows? Yes, it was the best episode of The Summer I Turned Pretty to date. We finally got Conrad's point of view, and... team jellyfish y'all cooked because you even watched a little bit with me and you were like oh she needs to be with Conrad You said that.

SPEAKER_02:

Did I?

SPEAKER_00:

Okay. And so it was a great episode. It's clear to me who Belly has a connection with. I do not like the thought of Denise and Steven getting together, but I'm sure they will. But I've hoped that Steven and Taylor will be in-game. And it was just really nice to finally see Conrad's point of view, not to see these useless side plots. Because again, I don't want filler episodes in short seasons. Strange New Worlds... Great. Loved it. We had the whole Leon and Spock kiss. They absolutely addressed that. Chapel knows about it. So we got ourselves a little awkward love square thing going on. And all those people had to work on a mission together.

SPEAKER_02:

And you loved it.

SPEAKER_00:

And I loved every second of it. And I'm just excited for more Star Trek. Did you have anything particularly exciting? The only thing I wanted to say was I am

SPEAKER_02:

interested. The way they're keeping Captain Patel's story going instead of just putting that away and going moving forward is interesting to me. It does feel like they're weaving that story towards a big... I don't know what it's going to be. It's been a really good through plot. Yeah, but it's a through plot that they've kept going. And this episode in particular, I think, really added a level of intrigue to it. Absolutely. With, like, why does this ancient being that was trapped in this temple suddenly know that she's got a Gorn inside of her? Like, that is intriguing, and I'm interested to see how it plays out.

SPEAKER_00:

My complaint for that opener episode was, well, they tied that up with a neat bow, but they didn't. And they're really going for it. And, yeah, I'm excited for that as well. You know what I'm not excited for? What's that? Bachelor in Paradise. Same. This season, it's just a mess. Now that they're in the game portion of it, we've lost some of the Goldens. I can't even remember who, I think Leslie and Gary left. It's just. Yeah, because Gary doesn't know how

SPEAKER_02:

to gamble and so he lost it for himself. All

SPEAKER_00:

the men are absolutely terrible except for some of the goldens. It's just, and now that you have the game element, I'm going to complain about it forever. I miss the Krusty Beach. Bachelor in Paradise was my favorite of the Bachelor shows and we had a year off from it and this is the product that they give me coming back. Each episode, I feel, is getting more and more painful to watch and if it's painful for me to watch it must just be excruciating for you it's

SPEAKER_02:

pretty bad I'm

SPEAKER_00:

gonna probably watch it tonight though perfect match on Netflix season 3 leaps and bounds above it I think you even agreed with me you haven't really been watching it so much better but again all the men are horrible and I just have a something to say men do better I'm tired of you guys like all these beautiful women crying over these horrible men it makes me physically sick

SPEAKER_02:

maybe the good ones are just not participating in these shows

SPEAKER_00:

So far, Freddie and Ray are the only good men from Perfect Match. The finale of Perfect Match will air this Friday because Netflix kind of has been... They'll even break up their reality shows like that now, which is super annoying. But speaking of the best reality show... Wait,

SPEAKER_02:

so you're going to announcements. We forgot to do something earlier, so now I have to do it now. Okay. We have several.

SPEAKER_00:

We're talking a lot, so it's a long episode. Several

SPEAKER_02:

show notes.

SPEAKER_00:

All right.

SPEAKER_02:

And we decided that we're just going to start reading. So we take these notes as we're watching TV over the course

SPEAKER_00:

of the week. We usually grab a phone, jot something down.

SPEAKER_02:

And so we've decided we're just going to make them a segment. We were going to do it earlier in the episode, but here for whoever the one person still listening, we're going to go ahead and do it for you. The White Lotus reality show idea with Mike White. So I just want to throw this out there that as I was suffering through Bachelor in Paradise

SPEAKER_00:

I

SPEAKER_02:

had an idea for a reality show where they hire a bunch of these people that do these kind of reality shows for a reality show where they take them to a hotel like the White Lotus and they do a reality show but they don't tell them what the show is actually about and what the show is is the White Lotus so all of the staff at the hotel are actors who are there to mess with the participants in a White Lotus like

SPEAKER_00:

situation Bachelor contestants more psychological trauma by putting them through a show like that.

SPEAKER_02:

Fine. Finally... We did have one Wednesday note. We did? Salute your shorts. Oh, shut up. Don't tell me all. At one point in the show, the camp episode, episode three, they are playing the taps. Not the nighttime taps, but the day. I think it has a different name than taps. But that song. And you go, salute your shorts song. And I go, that's the song the military plays to wake you up in the morning, Hope. It's not salute.

SPEAKER_00:

You didn't know the Addams Family had two Ds.

UNKNOWN:

Leave me alone.

SPEAKER_02:

All right, you got some announcements?

SPEAKER_00:

I do. Special Forces Season 4 is coming September 25th, and we have a cast announcement. Brr, brr. I'm not going to read everybody on here because it's a lot of people, but we're getting Johnny Manziel, baby. I

SPEAKER_02:

couldn't be more excited.

SPEAKER_00:

He's either going to go early because of his attitude or go all the way. The other athletes, we are getting Shawn Johnson and her husband, Andrew East. We have another husband pairing of Eric Desker and Jesse James Decker. You know her from Dancing with the Sharks. I like her. Let's see here. Jesse Smollett. That was an actor that kind of had some controversy a couple years ago. Who else do I know on here? Nick Yun, another athlete. One of your

SPEAKER_02:

favorite memes.

SPEAKER_00:

I know, one of my favorite memes. Cody Brown from Sister Wives. Are you serious? He better go early. I'm not going to be able to stand up with him. I can't wait for one of the guys to yell at Cody because he is the most egotistical, terrible person. So I'm very excited for that. There's a girl called Brianna LaPierre. Pagely or something and I think she's known as Brianna Chicken Fry on like TikTok I have no idea who this woman is but apparently she had a lot of controversy going on and they say she's going to bring some drama but those are let's see Teresa am I saying her name right Gaitis I don't have the list in front of me so

SPEAKER_02:

how could I possibly

SPEAKER_00:

know you're not good at pronouncing stuff either she was on Dancing with the Stars but she's also one of the Real Housewives I think she actually did Time in Prison or something so we have our cast out we'll probably do a full blown analysis of each person from that cast as we get closer but you're you were just asking when am I getting special forces well now we have a date we also have a date for my life with the Walter boys season 2 on Netflix there's just something about a brother love triangle that sign me up sign me up it comes back August 28th I don't know if Netflix is going to be stupid and give me the split season because I haven't said anything about that and then only murders in the building season 5 I feel like we have not really seen a trailer but it is supposedly launching September 9th

SPEAKER_02:

it's odd like no press no trailer

SPEAKER_00:

no nothing I feel like unless I'm on the other side and I haven't seen anything and then and just like that is wrapping up it's Apparently, goodbye forever. Maybe. I hear Sarah Jessica Parker is shopping it around on other networks. The supposed final episode is coming to HBO Max this Thursday. We have watched episode 11. Nothing happened for me to talk about. So we will be back with our thoughts on that show in a future episode. A

SPEAKER_02:

future episode. We're probably off next week. We're enjoying our anniversary. Everybody, please have a good rest of your evening, day, morning, whenever time you're listening to this. Summer week. No.

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